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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    ^Lol, Lord Jaguar, thats insight from Heaven!
    Oh, look! It's Cloud, the ENTJ hater. Hi, little buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Let me paraphrase one of my fav INTJ members in another forum.
    He basically said, Ti will do anything to keep a theory intact -even if it's wrong.

    Food for thought.
    Thanks




    But we really must keep this in context. I can totally relate. By the time an Ni dom has a theory (which is huge, not talking just a hypothesis or an idea), he has put a LOT of work and time into it. Especially an INTJ who needs facts (not just Fe fluff ) to support it.

    What sim is doing is sticking to his definitions, not theories, which is textbook Ti, I agree. But, again, I will assert that he does it with an emotional flavor. Indeed, he almost seems more emotional about it than me, an Fe aux!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    Thanks

    But we really must keep this in context. I can totally relate. By the time an Ni dom has a theory (which is huge, not talking just a hypothesis or an idea), he has put a LOT of work and time into it. Especially an INTJ who needs facts (not just Fe fluff ) to support it.

    What sim is doing is sticking to his definitions, not theories, which is textbook Ti, I agree. But, again, I will assert that he does it with an emotional flavor. Indeed, he almost seems more emotional about it than me, an Fe aux!

    Nothing like missing the forest for the trees. The both of you actually deserve each other and you don't even see why.
    It doesn't matter if it's a theory or a definition, Ti will doggedly adhere to it since it's part of their overall MODEL.

    God help you if you embarrass yourself again claiming the word "model" is out of context.
    Your incessant pedantry impedes progress.

    Poorly developed Ti can manifest as rigid thinking and pedantry.
    That doesn't exclude Sim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Nothing like missing the forest for the trees. The both of you actually deserve each other and you don't even see why.
    It doesn't matter if it's a theory or a definition, Ti will doggedly adhere to it since it's part of their overall MODEL.

    God help you if you embarrass yourself again claiming the word "model" is out of context.
    Your incessant pedantry impedes progress.

    Poorly developed Ti can manifest as rigid thinking and pedantry.
    That doesn't exclude Sim.
    I was pointing out that an INTJs dogmatic attachment to a theory is different in nature than a Ti's adherence to a definition. I saw the forest, I was simply pointing out the variation in the trees.

    Pedantry? You give me far more credit than I give myself.

    I never claimed Ti in myself either. Thanks for supporting me in that>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Let me paraphrase one of my fav INTJ members in another forum.
    He basically said, Ti will do anything to keep a theory intact -even if it's wrong.

    Food for thought.
    This is unfortunately true.

    (If only we could be like the ENTJs, with no weaknesses of any sort whatsoever.)
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    What I am asserting is that the tert is aligned opposite the dominant. That means you, and any other EFP, are using different attitudes of F than an INTJ would be using. You are using aux Fi and they are using tert Fe.

    Aux Fi can very well appear warm as you said yourself in the bolded. That still doesn't mean an INTJ is using Fi over Fe.
    What? ETPs have tert Fe. ITJs have tert Fi. It's pretty obvious. It makes perfect sense because FPs and TJs seem to have some sort of mutual understanding, while FJs and TPs share this...it's Te/Fi vs. Ti/Fe.

    Not only that, but the serious problems that young ITJs often have with social adjustment reflects Fi much more than Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    What? ETPs have tert Fe. ITJs have tert Fi. It's pretty obvious.
    That's what I've been posting about, Marm! I think it's very much the opposite; to me the opposite is obvious. Although more mature (as in living experience) individuals can exhibit both which muddies the waters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    That's what I've been posting about, Marm! I think it's very much the opposite; to me the opposite is obvious. Although more mature (as in living experience) individuals can exhibit both which muddies the waters.
    Read my edit. It isn't obvious at all. Fe generally has much more social finesse, as well as caring much more about what other people think. I'm not sure how you came to associate this with ITJs unless you're using socionics. I'm baffled, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    This is unfortunately true.

    (If only we could be like the ENTJs, with no weaknesses of any sort whatsoever.)
    Aw, aren't you cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Oh, look! It's Cloud, the ENTJ hater. Hi, little buddy!
    Hate is such a strong word. How bout lack of synergy?
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