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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Your logic is very flawed for an INTP. A -> B is not the same as A <-> B.

    Otherwise people who didn't do all three would be depressed, yes, which everyone knows is NOT the case :P It's simply a matter of the body responding to this sort of stimuli positively when one IS depressed.
    Actually, the logic wasn't flawed in its intention, intended as a mockery of the OP's post. I just didn't want to be blunt about it. Just wanted a simple point across without anyone feeling hurt over it. :P

    I was just adding a dimension to the topic, since the topic states that this is a cure for depression.
    That this can help with depressions, I've no doubt. But that this can help with everyones depression is a wrong assumption.

    If this was a surefire way to cure all depressions. Such easy to follow physical guidelines. Then it's like saying, if you're depressed, you're stupid. Because it's easy not to be depressed. Doesn't quite work like that, though. So if you spotted the faults in my logic, why did you not spot the faults in the OP's logic which resulted in my faulty logic. Which I intended anyways. :P

    But anyway, didn't want to drag it out in a large discussion. So I'll stick with my previous post which was sufficiently thought provoking. :P
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    Yes, starting to exercise kept me off meds during a touch-and-go hard time, and it can still keep me balanced. I've stopped exercising and have seen/felt the difference. I have a family history.

    I would recommend it to anyone -- and I regularly do.

    My exercise is mostly done outdoors, though, so sunlight might have to be factored in.

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    There's actually something else that bothers me.

    In the context of this topic. It doesn't seem to matter 'why' someone is depressed. Whilest to me, the 'why' seems to be the single most important factor in battling the depression. Any action taking like the ones above, does not deal with the core problem why someone is depressed. So how can it cure the depression?

    Or am I wrong in that assumption?

    I don't think I've ever really been depressed as some people get depressed. I've been distressed before, but I think that's something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    There's actually something else that bothers me.

    In the context of this topic. It doesn't seem to matter 'why' someone is depressed. Whilest to me, the 'why' seems to be the single most important factor in battling the depression. Any action taking like the ones above, does not deal with the core problem why someone is depressed. So how can it cure the depression?

    Or am I wrong in that assumption?

    I don't think I've ever really been depressed as some people get depressed. I've been distressed before, but I think that's something else.
    'Why' is a very good thing to figure out. If you can. But things run together. Like, I had a counselor tell me that my initial episode was situational depression that, because of family history or likely genetic predisposition, spiraled into something more serious. It might not have gotten so serious, had the situation been nipped in the bud, but I was young and stupid.

    Actual clinical depression feels worlds different than sadness, funk, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    I was just adding a dimension to the topic, since the topic states that this is a cure for depression.
    That this can help with depressions, I've no doubt. But that this can help with everyones depression is a wrong assumption.
    Amen and

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    There's actually something else that bothers me.

    In the context of this topic. It doesn't seem to matter 'why' someone is depressed. Whilest to me, the 'why' seems to be the single most important factor in battling the depression. Any action taking like the ones above, does not deal with the core problem why someone is depressed. So how can it cure the depression?

    Or am I wrong in that assumption?

    I don't think I've ever really been depressed as some people get depressed. I've been distressed before, but I think that's something else.
    Amen.

    Sure there are certain things people can do like those points mentioned in the OP, simple things that can be quite effective, but they are not the 'cure' for depression, for some people those elements can be present and yet depression still coexists and for some the depression will not subside until the root causes are dealt with.

    CzeCze posted a cool shortlist once of things that someone who is depressed could do to help them cope, but none of these things will pull someone out of depression unless it's something like seasonal affective disorder type stuff.


    ETA, here's CzeCze's post:

    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Depression - existential or clinical?

    I always say start with the basics and see how life is like from there.

    Sleep well, eat well, drink plenty of fluids, get enough sunlight and excercise. Stay away from too much: coffee, nicotine, sugar, alcohol, anything addictive.

    Step two:

    Cut out toxicity from your life, including the sources inside you.

    Step three:

    Find things and people that activate you and make you joyful. That make you feel like the person you want to be or give you the hope that you can get there.

    And definitely, avoid being an automaton. Don't go on autopilot or deaden yourself as a coping mechanism. And be a good person, truly kind, honest, not vindicative, or malicious, let go of pain from situations that are no longer in your control or in the past (which is also out of your control)

    Demand the best from yourself and from others and be ready to step up to the plate.

    Hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Actually, the logic wasn't flawed in its intention, intended as a mockery of the OP's post. I just didn't want to be blunt about it. Just wanted a simple point across without anyone feeling hurt over it. :P

    I was just adding a dimension to the topic, since the topic states that this is a cure for depression.
    That this can help with depressions, I've no doubt. But that this can help with everyones depression is a wrong assumption.

    If this was a surefire way to cure all depressions. Such easy to follow physical guidelines. Then it's like saying, if you're depressed, you're stupid.
    No, because knowing the path and walking the path are two different things. When I've felt depressed I did know all these things but I just didn't feel motivated enough to do them. It wasn't stupidity of course.

    But sure enough, very slowly I started unwillingly taking these steps. Exercise in particular was a huge help. I hate exercise tho, but immediately started noticing improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typology View Post
    3. The easiest one of the three, even thought it may cost you a few dollars, is an Omega 3 + 6 fish oil supplement...it kind of ties the other two together into a calm and relaxed package. Good for the heart too, so that's a plus.
    Any recommended alternatives for fish oil?

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    I don't think I was entirely clear about the intended meaning behind the title of the thread. When I say 'My Cure,' what I mean by that is that it has worked for me as of late. Of course there is no single cure for depression, as every case has it's own individual factors that can cause various forms of depression. I put this thread out there to bounce this idea off of everybody, and maybe give other people another option to try or add to their lifestyle and see how it works for them.
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    These are good recommendations. They will probably help a pretty large percentage of people with depression. Like others have said, depression is a complicated illness with a complicated set of causes. Some people might have the symptoms of depression because of factors that can be fixed by these interventions, but if they have an actual factual brain chemistry issue this might not work as well as antidepressants would.

    Trinity: hemp oil is a really good non-animal source of omegas. So is flaxseed oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    are you 100% sure that you know whats your talking about?

    little that i know about this, it seems that hemp oil is better than fish oil

    Hemp Oil

    Inferiority of Fish Oils

    This was pretty interesting:
    The conversion rate for short chains into more effective long chains is variable and low; taking long chains directly is far more effective for body comp, mood and to control inflammation.

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