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    "Hearing" the taste of a peach "smells" like bullshit to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez View Post
    "Hearing" the taste of a peach "smells" like bullshit to me.
    Wait "Smelling" the sound of a peach "tastes" like bullshit.

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    As to the mixed sense it is real for some people, but of course I'm merely trying to illustrate that neurologists consider there to be more than 5 senses, more like 9.

    With
    Thermoception - the sense of heat
    Nociception - the perception of pain
    Equilibrioception - the perception of balance and
    Proprioception - the perception of body awareness as credible senses so there.

    While Aristotle was right, he neglected some.

    And not happy with up to 21 senses then eco-psychologist Michael J Cohen puts the number of senses at our disposal at 53. His definition of a sense goes beyond the physiological phenomenon/nerve sensor definition. He breaks the senses down into four categories:

    * The radiation senses: sense of colour, sense of moods associated with colour, sense of temperature.
    * The feeling senses: sensitivity to gravity, air and wind pressure, and motion.
    * The chemical senses: hormonal sense, such as pheromones, hunger for food, water or air.
    * The mental senses: pain, external and internal, mental or spiritual distress, sense of self, including friendship, companionship and power, psychic capacity.

    Apparently but then we are overlapping some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez View Post
    "Hearing" the taste of a peach "smells" like bullshit to me.
    It's called synesthesia.

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    I gather that. Except, like I said, it's bullshit afaik. A peach's odor doesn't really have much in the way of producing audible noises, and I'm not really open to the idea that someone is hearing something... I'm more open to the idea that these people are insane.

    “Sometimes when I hear John Coltrane play trumpet, I see a purple mist escape from my eyes, into the great void of existence, to meander about and swirl in beautiful, dancing motions that bring tears to my unworthy eyes. I feel great joy and sorrow at this, and it moves me like nothing else.”
    ~ A Synesthetic on Seeing Sounds

    It's poetic, I guess. But if he's serious, he needs to stfu.

    Funnily, Coltrane didn't even play trumpet. He played sax. This guy needs to get real on multiple levels.

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    It's neurological. It's well accepted. It's not that the taste of a peach produces sounds, but that arousal of the part of the brain that comprehends taste also arouses that which comprehends sounds. The wires get crossed.

    Letters with color and texture, numbers arranged in space, and sounds with color are also common. It ranges from just the mental association (What was her name, I remember it was blue...) to actually seeing the shade overlayed on the written word.

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    Synesthesia

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    Tests, I love tests.

    The Synesthesia Challenge - Is your brain hard-wired for creativity?

    I got 57%,

    I found some more.
    Synesthesia Color/Emotion Test

    happy
    green: 100% correct, 1270 ms/response
    blue: 80% correct, 1256 ms/response
    red: 33% correct, 3184 ms/response
    yellow: 50% correct, 2327 ms/response
    orange: 66% correct, 1691 ms/response
    purple: 100% correct, 1850 ms/response

    sad
    green: 33% correct, 4321 ms/response
    blue: 33% correct, 3120 ms/response
    red: 100% correct, 5607 ms/response
    yellow: 50% correct, 2110 ms/response
    orange: 0% correct, NaN ms/response
    purple: 0% correct, NaN ms/response

    angry
    green: 66% correct, 1765 ms/response
    blue: 0% correct, NaN ms/response
    red: 75% correct, 1283 ms/response
    yellow: 50% correct, 1583 ms/response
    orange: 50% correct, 1930 ms/response
    purple: 66% correct, 1296 ms/response

    frightened
    green: 100% correct, 1396 ms/response
    blue: 100% correct, 753 ms/response
    red: 50% correct, 2982 ms/response
    yellow: 75% correct, 1061 ms/response
    orange: 100% correct, 944 ms/response
    purple: 100% correct, 644 ms/response

    Interesting but what does it mean.

    Synaesthesia | All tests
    Test for weekdays, numbers and months and went with numbers.

    Your results of the color test indicate that you most likely aren't a synaesthete. However you've answered the related questions in a typical way for synesthetes. Maybe you just weren't fully concentrated or you have a different form of synaesthesia. Keep on testing yourself.

    A bit of fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez View Post
    "Hearing" the taste of a peach "smells" like bullshit to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rez View Post
    I gather that. Except, like I said, it's bullshit afaik. A peach's odor doesn't really have much in the way of producing audible noises, and I'm not really open to the idea that someone is hearing something... I'm more open to the idea that these people are insane.

    “Sometimes when I hear John Coltrane play trumpet, I see a purple mist escape from my eyes, into the great void of existence, to meander about and swirl in beautiful, dancing motions that bring tears to my unworthy eyes. I feel great joy and sorrow at this, and it moves me like nothing else.”
    ~ A Synesthetic on Seeing Sounds

    It's poetic, I guess. But if he's serious, he needs to stfu.

    Funnily, Coltrane didn't even play trumpet. He played sax. This guy needs to get real on multiple levels.


    There are a ton of misconceptions about what synesthesia is. I also see a few too many people on this forum talking about having some form of synesthesia which isn't actually synesthesia...that's another topic.

    But synesthesia is a real condition. People make it out to be a whole lot more artistic than it generally is in everyday experience.

    The strongest objective measure that synesthesia exists (imo) is actual MRI scans that show a connection in the synesthesate's mind that isn't present in most test subjects. This proves that something is physically different in the operating hardware, hence the difference in perception.

    Also objective measures, that you could claim are fake but I think are pretty strong, are that there is very very little change in the experience - a certain sound or tone will be the same color and texture - even if asked decades apart to describe it. It's also an unellicited response. You can't "turn it on" or "off" for that matter. It's either there or it isn't.

    There is a variety of types of synesthesia.

    PS: Main reason I rarely ever talk about my synesthesia, aside from giving a speech in college about it (which turned out to be a mistake), is that people think you are crazy, or just making stuff up. Or people annoy the crap out of you by asking you "what does that sound like" etc.

    I made a post in the synesthesia thread, check it out for more info.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Also, synapse - if you are addressing the actual condition of synesthesia, than the first three examples (pictures) aren't all that representative of a synesthetic experience...

    "synesthesia" does, however, have a different definition in terms of art vs. neurology. so in artistic terms, sure.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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