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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    you know somtime when you have been on the recieving end of trolling behaviour it is fairly likely that the person will be frustrated.

    You don't have to read what I have to say so please refer to blue if you want to continue the conversation... because I did 2-3 hours of this yesterday it was frustrating to say the least.... Personally speaking I have shown a huge amount of patience... which has been exhausted...and will not be reapted in the future.


    Do please continue to read the report and come up with entirel different conclusions, your opinion is your own
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    tnks just more than a little frustrated with being misquotes, picked on incorrectly and then constantly running around in circules last night was just too much...

    but thank you,

    seriously read the report, make your own mind up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    AVIS was attempting to say something, I just cleaned up his approach....

    I'm not denying that in the real population the gifted students would be a much smaller % (the report uses 19 sample in 14 studies, across x number of years) ... it's bollox... but if you use it as a foundation for thinking...

    the overall principals are LIKELY to hold true... N's are likely to be more intellegent... and to a minor extent NP... I's will be more represented in the gifted pop (more 50:50) than they will be in the normal population - mainly because the normal pop are E skewed...

    There is a LOT wrong with that report... you are only scratching the surface

    Wheeeeeeeeeeeew - maths online, not a good medium...
    To the extent that the tests were made and inadvertently for N's.

    Regardless, I don't think the point of the whole discussion was to debate statistics so much as hear if anyone knows someone who breaks the stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbleboy View Post
    To the extent that the tests were made and inadvertently for N's.

    Regardless, I don't think the point of the whole discussion was to debate statistics so much as hear if anyone knows someone who breaks the stereotype.
    What tests...?

    the point of the thread is about Thinkers v's Feelers... or more correctly are thinkers stupid..... T v's F come out pretty even on the smart scale.. and no a predictor of intellectual aptitude...

    The predictor is likely to be N-ness....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    Do you see anybody else using words like
    shyte or bollox? Do you?
    Of course not, we're not all from the UK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    What tests...?

    the point of the thread is about Thinkers v's Feelers... or more correctly are thinkers stupid..... T v's F come out pretty even on the smart scale.. and no a predictor of intellectual aptitude...

    The predictor is likely to be N-ness....
    I think the point is that the tests determine "intelligence" not as some Platonic ideal, but rather that they coincide a determination of intelligence with psychological processes that are called "intuition" under a Jungian framework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    What tests...?

    the point of the thread is about Thinkers v's Feelers... or more correctly are thinkers stupid..... T v's F come out pretty even on the smart scale.. and no a predictor of intellectual aptitude...

    The predictor is likely to be N-ness....
    Uhh, no, the point of the thread was not "Are thinkers stupid?"

    Obviously <100% of thinkers are smart, and obviously <100% of thinkers are stupid. The thread was asking for examples of stupid thinkers, not asking whether a ridiculous generalization about 100% of them is true or not.


    And no, N/S is not a predictor of intelligence either. This assumes that there's only type of intelligence and that it can be measured on a one-dimensional linear scale. There are numerous different kinds of intelligence--Sensors are not less intelligent on average unless you're testing N-style intelligence.
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    Thanks, Simulated... that was indeed the question.
    I used some fictional examples because I always use fictional examples. I'm just more confident in typing fictional characters than real ones. Also, I don't really want to call real people stupid

    There are different kinds of intelligence indeed. But I don't want to conclude that "everybody is equally intelligent, only in different ways" which is politically correct but not true - at least, I don't think it's true.
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