The point was that communication is an issue. If you wanted to speak to those children about music, communication would be an issue. You wouldn't be able to communicate a lot about what you were thinking.
That is all. How could you even disagree?
It's not about being "better" or any value judgment.
Everything you've said in this thread contains a value judgement.
Just out of curiosity: Would that be Cattell, Stanford Binet or Wechsler (in the article)?
Not only have there been dozents of discussions on the definition of intelligence and how to measure it but on top of that I find that, more often than not, when I hear Americans mention high scores that sound impressive to my European ear it´s usually in Cattell, not Wechsler. It´s like talking about the weather without saying if you mean Fahrenheit or Celsius!
What else? Oh yeah, if you have trouble communicating your ideas, there are basically 3 options:
1. Hope and pray everybody else changes and suddenly gets you
2. Give up and become a hermit...with a nice little cave of your own and everything, maybe you can build a little computer out of twigs and pebbles
3. See it as a challenge to improve your communication skills and use the opportunity to seee if your ideas really are all that clear and coherent once you free them of the technical babble and express them in simple words. Several philosophy grads among my friend don´t notice when they get caught up in semantics.
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I don't really have that much of a problem communicating with anyone who speaks any language that I speak sufficiently... communicating is one of my talents- I can communicate perfectly fine with dumbasses OR geniuses... I am usually one of the most common denominators in the world of communication
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Education level might contribute. Maturity too, but not IQ.
Let's say I am a very fast runner. What does that have to do with walking with my grandmother to the park? It's all context dependent. What does my IQ have to do with general communication? And shouldn't a bright person be able to aid someone else by understanding their lack of knowledge and gauging your statements accordingly? I think so. I did it all the time when I tutored language or music. I knew more, so it was my obligation to present the information in such a way that the person could assimilate it and learn. You do this by assessing what he/she knows about, and creating metaphors based on that (if possible).
Originally Posted by Evan
Edit: re:above guy -- If you are an olympic runner, you probably have to try to walk as slow as a grandma. (Have you ever tried walking half of your normal walking speed? It takes real effort). That's what it's like for the smarter person. It takes effort to translate your ideas such that they'll be understood.
I think it requires some intelligence to know your audience, and adapt your style of communicating an idea to it. Also, if an intelligent person only acts condescending towards the lesser intelligent person (and here, by intelligent, I mean pertaining to a particular subject or topic), then that person is being put into a disadvantage of not ever gaining anything out of the experience. They aren't being given an opportunity to learn the idea or concept that is being explained. I've always agreed with the school of thought that a person that is highly knowledgeable in any arena, can easily break down an idea or concept and explain simply enough for a 5 year old to understand.
I also think that if you are speaking with someone with a possibly lower iq than oneself, by adapting or speaking more on that level, you are capable of seeing what real intelligence they do have. (Some people remember facts, and therefore know shit. Others don't retain that type of information, and may therefore be ignorant towards a topic... yet, they may be quick to grasp and comprehend.) And same when I speak with people of higher intelligence than myself... if they are condescending or try to belittle me, I can't possibly gain anything from the experience, nor will they see anything of worth in me as they aren't even offering me an opportunity to show what intelligence I do have.
However, I don't give much to scores and numbers on IQ tests. There are many different types of intelligence.
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I only know flawed people who are still worth loving."