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    Default Archetypes, Cognitive Dissonance and all that Jazz

    I was thinking today while at the gym how in a lot of ways ISFP and ISTP represent archetypes that have been fighting for space in my head from the very start. For as long as my mind goes back. Causing a kind of cognitive dissonance. And that is where the confusion stems from over the types. Anybody else get that?

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    Confusion yes. Split personality no
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Confusion yes. Split personality no
    I'm not really talking about a split though. Just confusion over direction.

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    Well its up to you if you want to live your whole life after archetypes or create a new one
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Well its up to you if you want to live your whole life after archetypes or create a new one
    That's true. It is interesting how the types have revealed that, that was there long before I ever heard of MBTI. Create a new archetype. Hmmm...interesting.

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    It's true that if someone seeks for direction, he has to get to know a lot of different ones and may it be to just faintly grasp the concept at all. But one should never stop at one point. The sky is the limit.

    I know that even at age 90 I will learn things or to be more precise in my case at age 90 I will prolly become finally an adult

    Just dont give up, the world can need one or two more fine guys like you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    It's true that if someone seeks for direction, he has to get to know a lot of different ones and may it be to just faintly grasp the concept at all. But one should never stop at one point. The sky is the limit.

    I know that even at age 90 I will learn things or to be more precise in my case at age 90 I will prolly become finally an adult

    Just dont give up, the world can need one or two more fine guys like you are
    Thanks for that. I would never give up now, I keep learning more about myself.

    I can see that ISTP in some ways represented the hero and explorer archetype. Whereas the ISFP represented the jesster and creator archetype to me. So there was a fight between these two. A desire to be more pragmatic etc that I found in the ISTP descriptions. But I fit the creator and jester archetype more than anything else. I'm not attempting to box myself in, just using them as tools for self reflection.

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    I want both, I want all the types thanks.
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    This is not really about types. It's about one of the reasons why we get into a bind over two types. What is behind that? Each type has it's own kind of archetype built up around it. I'm talking about the overall image of a type.

    It made complete sense in my head but seems to get lost a little in translation.

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    could it be associated with the 'practical' versus 'ideal'...?

    like, one side representing what we think makes the most functional sense for us to be (what we're good at),
    and one closer to what we'd want to be, independent of practical expectations (what we want to be good at)?

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