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    I think sports ideology permeates American culture with most every interaction formatted as competition either as teams (This vs. That) or finding who comes in Number 1, 2, and 3. This seems to be the case whether it is Coke vs. Pepsi or IBM vs. Mac, Republican vs. Democrat, etc. People get deeply invested and idealize their team and dismiss whatever is their opponent. It shapes the sense of reasoning and criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamathousandapples View Post
    Compare most European countries to the US. Most European countries will generally have pictures in newspapers that here would be considered "offensive". Also the general direction of the English Language following WWI.
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    Ah, see, when you said 'hypersensitivity' I thought you meant something else.

    Well, I don't get it. Europe isn't the rest of the world. Though America seems like it's full of prudes to the Europeans, I heard that if you compare it to the whole world, it's pretty... average.

    Also, you need to remember when things like 'wardrobe malfunctions' come up, it's usually a very small fraction of people complaining -- everyone else is groaning at that small fraction or making jokes of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    I think sports ideology permeates American culture with most every interaction formatted as competition either as teams (This vs. That) or finding who comes in Number 1, 2, and 3. This seems to be the case whether it is Coke vs. Pepsi or IBM vs. Mac, Republican vs. Democrat, etc. People get deeply invested and idealize their team and dismiss whatever is their opponent. It shapes the sense of reasoning and criticism.

    That is not uniquely American in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    That is not uniquely American in the least.
    Agreed.

    I don't think that comes from sports. That behavior seems to stem from the same place faith and loyalty to one's own side in war comes from.

    I think sports evolved from warfare, not the other way around. In a sense, you might say that war is the oldest sport. A very bloody sport, but a sport nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oom View Post
    How do the Australians act when they are in "American" mode?
    It's more that we understand and appreciate American popular culture, as does the rest of the world.

    However in the presence of Americans we feel inferior.

    We feel inferior because Americans express deference in a way that we interpret as dominance.

    So quite wrongly we feel Americans are trying to dominate us. And so we feel inferior.

    And the more Americans try to make us feel at home by exhibiting appropriate deference, the more we think they are trying to dominate us.

    Unfortunately each of us show deference and dominance in different ways. So we can expect to misunderstand one another.

    So understanding and appreciating popular culture in no way means we understand our deeper cultures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The, "Economist", published a survey the other day of peoples who support their country.

    Australia was top of the list followed by Canada and your neighbour Finland. The USA was quite a way down the list.

    I have always thought American patriotism protests too much.
    So THATS why all australians praise their country!!
    See what I meant was that I am patriotic for the US even though I don't originate from there haha

    Finland are NOT my neigbours!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pristinegirl View Post
    Finland are NOT my neigbours!!!
    Finland is not your neighbour? Why, you could practically ask them for a cup of sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Finland is not your neighbour? Why, you could practically ask them for a cup of sugar.
    Yea Swedes haha, ask when they need, but don't return...
    Geographically we are neighbours, but we have immensely grown apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    It's more that we understand and appreciate American popular culture, as does the rest of the world.

    However in the presence of Americans we feel inferior.

    We feel inferior because Americans express deference in a way that we interpret as dominance.

    So quite wrongly we feel Americans are trying to dominate us. And so we feel inferior.

    And the more Americans try to make us feel at home by exhibiting appropriate deference, the more we think they are trying to dominate us.

    Unfortunately each of us show deference and dominance in different ways. So we can expect to misunderstand one another.

    So understanding and appreciating popular culture in no way means we understand our deeper cultures.
    I do not feel inferior in the presence of Americans. I never did.

    My first American was a Texan. Time: August 1964. Place: London.
    There was a shortage of hotel accomodation.
    The agency said you can share, or you can live in the street.
    I shared.

    Texas was long an independent state.
    They acquired land that was not their own. It belonged to the local people.
    The locals were not allowed into the parks, recreational areas, hotels, pubs, restaurants.
    Barbers' shops. Diners. Whatever. Forbidden territory.

    The Texan in London talked of culture. He said London is great.
    I said I have seen better.

    Did I lie? I have a guilty conscience.
    I call my priest.

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    So, found your culture, yet , crybabys ?
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