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    Default My body is my temple?

    I appreciate all input on this topic, though in particular that of ISFJs. Thank you.

    What is your stance on how to treat your body? In our society, those that are overly into taking care of their body tend to be considered vain, inane, stupid,... And yet, to push your body relentlessly is definitely not healthy.

    My mother, for instance, tends to be against anything that's lotion, day cream, make-up, frilly girly stuff, and so on. She also puts other needs above her own, making her body last in priority at all times UNLESS her body gets in the way of her other priorities. Then she'll get it fixed...but only to be able to get back to those other priorities. She also tends to view those that are too overly into 'indulging themselves' as spineless and drama queens.

    On the other hand, those 'drama queens' often take care of their skin, do some sport to maintain their body, take the necessary time off for themselves to relax so they are able to go at it again later on. And they probably have fewer issues with their body as they grow older because of it. They consider it important to take care of themselves and can sometimes be 'selfish' by letting other things slide and prioritizing themselves. But is that really so bad?

    Taking care of your health and your body, even your body image seems to be very important in society these days. Considering the fact that we live longer than we used to, our bodies have to 'last' longer than before. Taking better care of it stands to reason. Body image is an important part of being successful in this society and getting things done, so really..is it such a bad thing to do?

    For that matter, one of the hypes these days is to take care of yourself, and your body, to find time to relax, and ohm. Or..is this just a lot of showing off, dramaqueening and excuses for indulgance and selfish behavior?
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    NO, your body is a wonderland.

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    this used to be something i used to ponder . . . a lot. my mother is just like your mother to a "t" & my aunts (her sisters) are the same way . . . so growing up they always made me feel like i was ridiculous for caring . . . like i was vain, self-centered, superficial etc. etc. . . . & it was very confusing back then. my response / reply may not at all answer your question but i feel like the beauty industry is an ugly greedy monster & it is ultra important to be aware of this. do men spend time thinking about the skin on their heels or the size of their pores or the texture of their thighs??? absolutely not. spend a week - a month not looking at any women's magazines or TV commercials & when you are out & about shopping avoid the makeup / beauty product aisles & displays & when you are around other females try to stay out of & away from any talk of "being fat" or our bodies / looks in general . . . and then tell me how you feel . . . this is what i do *NOW* because i went the other way for a few years because i didn't want to look the way my mom & aunts looked. i was terrified of becoming "frumpy" and "plain" like them. i have a lot more to say on this topic but this is where i'll begin . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Taking care of your health and your body, even your body image seems to be very important in society these days. Considering the fact that we live longer than we used to, our bodies have to 'last' longer than before. Taking better care of it stands to reason. Body image is an important part of being successful in this society and getting things done, so really..is it such a bad thing to do?

    For that matter, one of the hypes these days is to take care of yourself, and your body, to find time to relax, and ohm. Or..is this just a lot of showing off, dramaqueening and excuses for indulgance and selfish behavior?
    Absolutely not. However, spending ALL of one's time taking care of the body to the point where such behavior is obsessive (consumes one's mind day and night) is not good and probably what is imagined by someone who is "vain". But keeping up general maintenance on the body, making sure the muscles are used daily, eating right, keeping the skin and joints in good condition, and taking time out to let it recharge are all the same kinds of things that are done to ensure machines are working efficiently. And while this machine analogy works on some level, we cannot forget that the mind and body are intertwined. So many people who feel good physically will generally feel good mentally and emotionally.
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    +1 kyrielle the machine analogy is the perfect analogy . . . like . . . you don't want to be the weird car obsessed guy that is outside everyday with his "summer only" sports car waxing it & shining the rims & talking nonstop about getting this & that done to the car or getting a new faster engine put in when the current engine is fine . . . those dudes are boring, obsessive & weird . . . right . . . well we (as females) should be aware of ourselves NOT to fall into that trap of being like the sports car/ vintage car guys . . . because that's what the beauty industry wants us to be like. the beauty industry wants us to loathe ourselves so that we spend spend spend. but general maintenance is absolutely a must & your soul is housed inside your body . . . don't forget . . . doesn't your beautiful soul deserve a well kept home?

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    My ISFJ friend uses lotions and cares to some extent what she looks like, but the body being a temple isn;t just about the outisde.

    I have deep concerns about how little she cares for her body on the inside. She works, even when she is in pain she works, even when a doctor has ordered her to have bed rest she will still get up and go to work.

    She is a landscaper, and does loft conversions, house extentions, alot of hard labour and she doesn't take care of herself.

    I see her health falling apart and I tell her she needs to stop and care for herself more, but she just carries on as normal until she collapses in exhaustion.

    Me, I wouldn't push myself that hard, but I'm guilty of not treating my body like a temple aswell.
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    The body is not just a vehicle for one's brain, or an old Volvo that you should put just enough work into that it keeps running and doesn't fall apart.

    It is the way we interact with and experience the world - if you have one that works fully and properly and is healthy, it is fucking awesome. So in terms of taking care one's body... if one has the chance to give it a bit of love, I think they should. It adds a dimension to one's life that seems to be going by the wayside in many ways.

    Feeling the use and strength in one's body is a joy, and it's so easy to feel in one's self. Even taking up one activity to do on a regular basis is easy enough, and adds to one's life - dancing, having sex more often, sheisse, just pick one out of a hat for all I care.

    In terms of aesthetics, I'm all about taking care of what one has naturally - skin, body, internal whatsits - instead of layering stuff on top of it.

    Hmm: yes, it is a temple, but a Buddhist one - lots of chanting, minimalism and tasty, real foods going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrielle View Post
    Absolutely not. However, spending ALL of one's time taking care of the body to the point where such behavior is obsessive (consumes one's mind day and night) is not good and probably what is imagined by someone who is "vain". But keeping up general maintenance on the body, making sure the muscles are used daily, eating right, keeping the skin and joints in good condition, and taking time out to let it recharge are all the same kinds of things that are done to ensure machines are working efficiently. And while this machine analogy works on some level, we cannot forget that the mind and body are intertwined. So many people who feel good physically will generally feel good mentally and emotionally.
    Definitely. And I agree with your distinction between caring for ones body in a healthy, balanced way, vs. being obsessive about all of it and it being your prime/sole focus out of life.

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    It is the way we interact with and experience the world - if you have one that works fully and properly and is healthy, it is fucking awesome. So in terms of taking care one's body... if one has the chance to give it a bit of love, I think they should. It adds a dimension to one's life that seems to be going by the wayside in many ways.

    Feeling the use and strength in one's body is a joy, and it's so easy to feel in one's self. Even taking up one activity to do on a regular basis is easy enough, and adds to one's life - dancing, having sex more often, sheisse, just pick one out of a hat for all I care.

    In terms of aesthetics, I'm all about taking care of what one has naturally - skin, body, internal whatsits - instead of layering stuff on top of it.
    Purely from a health perspective, I think caring for your body - staying active, trying to eat well, etc, is a preventative measure to hopefully alleviate/slow down future health problems.

    And circling back to Kyrielle's final point - exercise gets those endorphins going, which improves emotional outlook, and what you eat also can have a large bearing on your energy level and consequent emotional state. And when I feel good about myself, and feel healthy physically, it has a direct bearing on my emotional/mental outlook, and when that is positive, I can then interact with others on a much more positive level as well. From a purely aesthetic basis, yes, I will freely admit my self-image plays a role in my confidence level. So in that sense, yeah, maybe I'm a tad vain. So, with that said, I do try to take care of my skin, and hair, and try to look the best I can look with what I've been given, because when I feel good about how I look, again, I have that bump in confidence and am able to interact with others in a more confident, open way.
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    (male here) I agree with you, the stance of your mother is somewhat short-sighted. Of course, if you avoid most activities because they'll be taxing - then that's bad - but pushing yourself without caring will lead to shorter lifespan, thus less time to do things if you take a global perspective.
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    So if you look at your typical day, what would you sacrifice or priotize below taking care of yourself? What would you drop in order to be able to do you daily physical routine, or to do that manicure, facial mask, take a long hot bubblebath, etc etc?
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