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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I'm often afraid to try new things because of social fear rather than a fear of change so that might skew things.
    Social fear is my only fear of change really. When it comes to personal things I like change or I get bored. I am not a sit and relax kind of person. I have even got to the point of multi tasking while I am napping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Wow tell me what ya really think
    I'm confused. Was I not supposed to?

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    Well... sure,
    new hair, new clothes, new restaurants, (although I am kind of a same restaurant same plate person) new little things. And constantly keeping busy. That's my style too..

    How about big changes, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    What's a good catalyst for change for you?

    Personally, I need to be pretty unhappy and discontented to want to change anything. (Jobs, residence, friendships, or whatever.) I will always be happier when things have been the same for a while.

    I noticed that a lot of people don't think that way though. You Ne people in particular seem to be just always changing for the sake of change. (Or maybe i'm wrong.) Is it that you are unhappy with the way things currently are all the time or is it that you are just happier under uncertain circumstances?

    I have an ENFP friend in particular who is always talking about moving, changing jobs, going back to school. (She actually starts some of the plans to and even manages to finish a select few!! Only to move on to something else.) She went through a bunch of relationships within the course of a year. That's so foreign to me. She is a perfectly happy and content person, but continues this kind of behavior.

    How do you handle changes when they do need to occur?
    I know this is supposed to be an N/S thing but seems like some Se people don't mind it either.
    Changing your diet is more difficult than changing your religion.

    In fact all change is very difficult and those who tell you they thrive on change are those most resistant to change.

    And those who embark on a change don't know where they are going or how to get there and so usually don't arrive.

    Just think of all those women's magazines devoted to diets and astrology. If either worked, the magazines would be out of business. But women remain the same and keep buying the magazines.

    Change is difficult because once you initiate a change you also initiate the homeostatic response.

    So it looks like change is self defeating. But if you give the devil his due, small slow changes are possible.

    So if you make a change on day one, then you rest on day two and pay your respects to homeostasis.

    This is surprisingly difficult to do in a literate culture as we are all trained in special institutions with specially trained staff to think lineally and sequentially. And so quite naturally we think change proceeds lineally and sequentially, one step after another. And when it doesn't, we think we have failed. And thinking makes it so.

    Rather change follows a circular pattern but we are linear and literate.

    However the noosphere is cutting out a circular pattern for us right now.

    And where changing our diet or religion may be difficult now, will seem far more natural in the noosphere.

    How rigid, how stiff, how armoured we will think the literate are as we dance into the noosphere.

    So changing our diet is more difficult than giving up our religion, but not quite as difficult as giving up literacy which is happening quietly, unobtrusively while we are under the anaesthetic of the threads.

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    Change?? What is that?

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    Everytime I have a baby my whole life and what I'm doing changes. I pick up a new hobby after every child. I need to have another one, I'm a little over the computer hobby this time. I seriously have no idea how I change my hobby/work so drastically every time I have a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Well... sure,
    new hair, new clothes, new restaurants, (although I am kind of a same restaurant same plate person) new little things. And constantly keeping busy. That's my style too..

    How about big changes, though?
    I can't speak for all intuitives but I have a very high standard of what would make me content, hopefully this answers why you might think we always seem to want change, because things havn't changed enough to make us/me content. I welcome the big changes and it's what I strive for, perhaps one day I'll be able to lie on my deathbed, looking back at my past and be content with the changes I've facilitated in the world.

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    Nice, interesting responses!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    As for me, I actually like to keep my basic life very stable and then change the more cosmetic things (moving/changing furniture/arrangements; getting new clothes; visiting new places; etc). I do get bored otherwise, I always need something new to explore.

    For me, it's just a matter of how much the change impacts the overall stability of my life. I don't like having to worry about money or a constantly changing routine because it distracts from my explorations into other things. If my life is unstable, then I have to divert energy back to it and that means taking it away from my creative and mental endeavors.
    Yeah, same. There's a part of my life that as long as it's okay I dislike to change (jobs, apartment, etc.), because it's a kind of safe haven for doing what I like doing during my free time.
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    I don't mind change as long as i am in control of it.

    If change is brought about by someone in my life, i struggle and tread water for a while till i get my plan of action in order.
    “I made you take time to look at what I saw and when you took time to really notice my flower, you hung all your associations with flowers on my flower and you write about my flower as if I think and see what you think and see—and I don't.”
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