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How would you feel after a day in these jobs? Part V, managers

Ghost of the dead horse

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8 hour day.

Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office

I didn't have the time to research this one so well, so excuse me if there are gross errors of fact.





The whole series:

Part I, simple jobs
Part II, skilled jobs
Part III, associate professionals
Part IV, experts
Part V, managers
 
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Phantonym

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work
Perfect!

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
Excellent!

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation
Yay for space but the directing part...eeem...I think I'll pass.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
:rolli: Boring

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company
I think I'd manage that. Not exactly a dream job, though.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge
Yup. That sounds pretty cool.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists
Wonderful!

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office
Nah.
 

Ghost of the dead horse

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work
I'd very much like this in the future. I'd be in harmony and feel happiness, I'd be elated.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
As any important job, I'd be happy to get it, but I wouldn't be particularly excited about this.

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation
I'd be overwhelmed by the amount of know-how and brain activity in the job. I'd be working in a job I'm not in control of, the researches would know more. So it would be adventure, I'd be excited, anxious, I'd feel the whole range of feelings. Probably I'd burn out sooner or later.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
Process engineering, okay. I'd be okay with it, it's part of what I've learned, but applied to different products. I wouldn't put all my heart to it and it would show. It would tax me.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company
I'd have skills from totally different areas, I'd be in pain not to screw up. I'd rely a lot on my subordinates to provide information and they would practically lead most of it for a year or two. I'd be afraid of when I'm going to be kicked out, I'd go home feeling insecure.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge
If it's personel matters, it's ok, but as I'd actually have to learn and use the engineering aspect of it, hmm, I guess I'd like it in the end. Building projects are exciting. But, I've loved this kind of engineering as a child, still like it, but I'd still be insecure and afraid of screwing up with this one.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists
I'd be thrilled. Dream job. I would take in the current development of games today, feel in the moods and details and dive in the atmosphere of the game we're creating. I'd be very happy about this, proud, it would be just perfect.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office
This would be a more standard setting than the others, I'd feel confident in fulfilling my responsibilities, and of course I would have had to learn a lot to get this far. Considering the time for all that, I'd be eventually disappointed of a boring job, unhappy.
 

Ghost of the dead horse

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Tired already? I didn't plan what I'd make with all this info, exactly, apart from vaguely seeing "personal influences" to job preferences.

From what I've seen (haven't put them into chart or anything), there seems to be a strong I/E thing going on, and almost nothing to do with F/T. What else? (or is it so?):huh:
 

Saslou

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Oh no. It's the end. Oh well, it was fun whilst it lasted. :)

Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work
Yes sir.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
Hmmm, i could give it a try.

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation
Nope.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
Boring.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company
Yes, i could do this.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge
Oh yeah. Eye candy. :)

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists
Not lead, but manage yeah.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office
Give me the gun. I'm already on it. ;)
 

King sns

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the workExcellent! Love it.
Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
No. Bored to tears!!
Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation
Incompetent, blah.
Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
Bored, sad, incompetent.
Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company
Sure! Decent
Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge
No!!
Unless we want some sad evening news.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists
That would be cool as long as I knew how to do it! Would enjoy it very much.
Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office
I'd be frustrated and angry with this job.
 

Geoff

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I work as a Manager, have done for years now. It has its ups and downs. Any questions just shout.

Not an eight hour day though, on average.
 

kelric

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work
Promoting occupational development and well-being, sure. (not like I think most managers are interested in that :rolleyes:). Not so much on the hiring part.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
Not something I'd enjoy. Too much tedium.

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation
Yes! The more technical and less PR-spinmeistering the better.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
Hmm... tough to say. It might be interesting and fun, and it might be dedicating my professional life to minutiae. I'd prefer something on a more general scale.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company
Anything to do with marketing is an automatic no.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge
I might be able to handle this... but I'd much rather be the design engineer.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists
This *sounds* like something that I'd really like. In practice, I'm not so sure. I think that there are a lot of details and people-problems that I'd be way stressed out by dealing with.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office
Meh. Not really interested.

All in all, I'm not terribly interested in "management". There's way too much PR, "appease the accountants", "Sales over all", and people problems. Any of that, much less all of it, would simply suck the life out of me. I'd much rather be "lead engineer", "technical specialist/coordinator", "troubleshooter", "designer", "teacher" or "writer".

Great thread idea, Santtu :)
 

OrangeAppled

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the workplace
I might be okay at this, except dealing with people a lot makes me tired.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
Dull.

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation

Dull.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
Dull.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personnel as the head of a building company

Sounds stressful to have that much responsibility, but I think I'd be okay at it.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge

I think I'd be awful at this and really bored.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists

I'm not into video games or fantasy genre stuff, but being a creative director sounds fun.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office

This sounds too close to law enforcement. I don't like borders and how carved up the world is, so in principle this would depress me. I'd be way too compassionate to anyone we caught :D
 

ENTJ Extraordinaire

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I have worked in Lower End management, mostly just Human Resources stuff, so business efficacy was never really a hard press. I didn't mind it, it appealed to the organisational wonderboy inside of me, but it came in between me and my work friends (they found the playfulness was gone once ENTJ Extraordinaire was truly unleashed :D)
 

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work Unhappy. I don't like that side of management, working with people is for a reason, not my only purpose so to speak.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage Great! Sounds fairly interesting to me, and a decent use of logic. (figuring out what's needed and where to put it in the future).

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation Pretty happy. I'd probably rather doing research as opposed to having to oversee everything though.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts Very happy. This is where I thrive, I'm very good at looking at what other people are doing and figuring out how to make it better/more efficient.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company Mediocre. Marketing would drag me down, personnel would be okay, production would be something I like doing.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge Quite happy.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists Jumping off the unfinished bridge at the above scenario. Forcing me to be creative = No. Making me oversee them? Doom for all.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office Happy. I'd be wanting to work more, and being very successful.
 

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I work as a Manager, have done for years now. It has its ups and downs. Any questions just shout.
What do you do?

What is required of you the most in this job?

Where you work at?

It helps to be a/an ____ person in your position (check those that apply!)
-entrepreneurial
-risk-orientated
-bureaucratic
-tough-minded
-empathetic
-conservative
-introverted
-flexible
-orderly
-agreeable
-innovative
-responsible
-accommodating
-detailed
-openminded
-skilled with people
-troubleshooter

What are the professions of your immediate subordinates?

What was the key job requirement to enter your position, as opposed to one of the subordinate positions?

Were you promoted to this job, were you recruited as a outsider or did you start as a manager some other way, like via internal transfer?

How did you first notice you had managerial qualities?

How did you make the company notice you, and acknowledge your managerial potential?

Did personality theory help you choose career path or advance in it?

Sorry if there's lot, of course I'm jumping at the opportunity of interviewing one manager :D
 

The_Liquid_Laser

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work
I think there are parts of this I'd like and parts I wouldn't.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage
Sounds boring

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation
Very cool. :cool:

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts
Sounds decent.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company
I'd like most of the jobs on this list, but some are less exciting than others. This is in the less exciting pile.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge
Same comment as the one above.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists
Ding! Ding! Ding! Winnar!

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office
I don't think I'd like this one, because I'm ambivalent on the immigration issue. No matter which way the policy changed I'd be pissed off.
 

Ghost of the dead horse

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Promoting occupational development and well-being, sure. (not like I think most managers are interested in that :rolleyes:). Not so much on the hiring part.
This kind of won't absolutely be found in most businesses. If it's found, it's probably named as Human Resources Manager or something like that.

Great thread idea, Santtu :)

Thanks! And for your answers :)
 

Athenian200

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work

Worried, stressed.
Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage

Anxious, but contemplative.
Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation

Excited, intrigued, but a little concerned.
Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts

Curious and focused.
Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company

Exhausted.
Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge

Tense and hyper-vigilant.
Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists

Proud, inspired, awed.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office

Suspicious, observant, curious.

I like some of these, but they generally feel like I'd have way too much hanging over my head. They seem interesting, though.
 

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Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work

Great! I'd love to do this.

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage

I could do this, but I have no experience in something like this nor have I given it thought.

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation

I don't know if I'd be well suited for this job... but hey I could try! I don't think I'd want to manage something like this though.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts

Not for me... too many details, too much risk if I screw up.

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company

Stressful, but I could do it definitely.

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge

Ugh, same with the airplane parts. Too many details, too stressful, too much risk.

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists

Yes! Totally! I've always wanted to do something like this.

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office

I don't think that I would have the passion needed for me to function at my fullest, since I really don't care about immigration enough and I think that the people in the country should just deny immigrants jobs.
 

Samvega

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8 hour day.

Hiring new people, promoting occupational development and well-being in the work

Deciding on the company's purchasing contracts, inventory and storage

Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts

Overseeing the marketing, production and personel as the head of a building company

Overseeing a team of construction engineers at the construction site of a large bridge

Leading the creative development of a fantasy RPG game and managing a team of artists

Improving border security by detecting smuggling and illegal immigration as the head of a customs office

I didn't have the time to research this one so well, so excuse me if there are gross errors of fact.

Still, like killing people but only 5,000,000,000 of them and I would be content with the jobs, any of them.
 

LostInNerSpace

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Directing the technical research development program in a space technology corporation

Who wouldn't? I would investigate the effects of weightlessness on my ego.

Planning, coordinating and controlling the efficiency of building airplane parts

Logistics? Why just airplane parts? This job would apply equally to just about any manufacturing process. But having something to do with designing the parts themselves might be interesting.
 

Ghost of the dead horse

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That, or process engineering applied to mechanical manufacturing processes, taking people and manufacturing methods in the equation. True, it could be for almost any end product. I told what the people would work for in the other descriptions :D
 
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