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    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Ni Fe Ti?
    There is no such type.

    ADHD seems to have correlation with Se..
    ADD with Ne?
    INFJ --> Ni Fe Ti Se

    IMO, it's kinda up in the air what your last 6 functions are. for me it goes Ni, Fe, Ti, blah, blah, blah, blah, Se.

    and i also think that my ADD has much to do with the strength and frequency of use of my Ti. once my Ti is satisfied with a subject, why pay any more attention? if i'm engaged, i'm quite engaged (hyperfocusing), but if not, i can't really focus at all.

    before i came to Cal (and here too to a lesser extent), i was always in the top few students in all my classes...not in terms of grades, but in terms of comprehension and speed. so it was extremely difficult for me to do tasks (busywork) that seemed easy for everyone else. (they were easy for me too, i just had to push myself insanely hard to complete them, since they were pointless.)

    so yes, i agree that there's a correlation between ADD and Ne. but i also think there's a correlation between ADD and Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Poriferan is quite right. In fact, most psychiatric disorders are over-diagnosed in the United States. I once recall reading somewhere that 60% of New York City inhabitants are currently using psychiatric medication of some variation. That is quite disturbing.
    overdiagnosed? maybe.

    or maybe our society is getting more and more specialized, which means "success" becomes harder ---> more depression, etc.

    actually i agree with overdiagnosed...for children. because in that case, it's the parents that do the damage. the child has no choice.

    but if an adult wants to take drugs, that should be their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    but i also think there's a correlation between ADD and Ti.
    There is nothing remotely ADD about Ti. Ti is all about intense focus.
    "The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's must be beautiful; the ideas like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics..." - G.H. Hardy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    There is nothing remotely ADD about Ti. Ti is all about intense focus.
    did you read what i wrote?

    once Ti gets something, it gets it. so hearing it repeated over and over in different ways for the next 88/90 minutes is quite difficult...

    plus, haven't you ever heard of hyperfocusing?

    edit: so assume Ti already gets the specific topic of the class you're in. well, it'll just start on some other topic. i used to sit in math class working out interesting calculations, not just ax^2+bx+c=0 bullshit. or i'd write computer programs on my calculator to do the busywork for me. i'd be off on my own world (ADD) doing what I found interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    plus, haven't you ever heard of hyperfocusing?
    Of course I have. But one doesn't have to be ADD to engage in hyperfocus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Of course I have. But one doesn't have to be ADD to engage in hyperfocus.
    all i'm saying is that i DO have ADD (based on the DSM-IV definition). and i don't use Ne or Se like at all. so it's either Ni, Fe, or Ti. i guess i could make an argument about it being Ni, but Ti makes more sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    all i'm saying is that i DO have ADD (based on the DSM-IV definition). and i don't use Ne or Se like at all. so it's either Ni, Fe, or Ti. i guess i could make an argument about it being Ni, but Ti makes more sense to me.
    Your argument appears somewhat logically superfluous.

    From the DSM-IV:
    1. Often does not give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes in schoolwork, work, or other activities.
    2. Often has trouble keeping attention on tasks or play activities.
    3. Often does not seem to listen when spoken to directly.
    4. Often does not follow instructions and fails to finish schoolwork, chores, or duties in the workplace (not due to oppositional behavior or failure to understand instructions).
    5. Often has trouble organizing activities.
    6. Often avoids, dislikes, or doesn't want to do things that take a lot of mental effort for a long period of time (such as schoolwork or homework).
    7. Often loses things needed for tasks and activities (e.g. toys, school assignments, pencils, books, or tools).
    8. Is often easily distracted.
    9. Is often forgetful in daily activities.
    Name one thing on that list that is distinctly Ti.
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    Hm... I always thought most aspies operated a lot by Ti, but this thread has made me think. I still see Ti a lot in aspies, but that might just be because it's easier to study a person's rational functions than it is to study the perceiving functions.

    I now have two possible hypotheses to consider:
    1: Aspies rely mostly on a judging function and don't use a perceiving functon as much.
    2: Aspies rely too much on Ni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carebear View Post
    Hm... I always thought most aspies operated a lot by Ti, but this thread has made me think. I still see Ti a lot in aspies, but that might just be because it's easier to study a person's rational functions than it is to study the perceiving functions.

    I now have two possible hypotheses to consider:
    1: Aspies rely mostly on a judging function and don't use a perceiving functon as much.
    2: Aspies rely too much on Ni.
    I was thinking more either Ni or Ti.

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