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1. Originally Posted by wildcat
Your function order is Ni Fe Ti Ne Fi Te Se Si.. actually it could read:
Fe Ni Ti Ne Fi Te Se Si

and the ENFJ model:
Fe Ni Ne Fi Te Si Se Ti

the INFJ model
Ni Fe Fi Ne Si Te Ti Se

NFJ is Te > Ti; Si > Se
NFP is Ti > Te; Se > Si

On the other hand you are Fe > Fi; Ni > Ne, a J charasteristics.

At first sight it looks close to an ENFJ pattern, yet is not.
The E/I ambivalence is linked to the P/J ambivalence.

It seems the ADD throws you off the rocker, as you say.
That's a pretty unconventional extrapolation - what makes you think so?

This is, I suspect, someone who would, in theory score higher on N and F, than on J or I/E. On the four letter tests.

2. Originally Posted by wildcat
the INFJ model
Ni Fe Fi Ne Si Te Ti Se

NFJ is Te > Ti; Si > Se
NFP is Ti > Te; Se > Si
the only way i can make sense of that is if you're assuming i'm 100&#37;, 100% F, and like 1% J.

so the first 2 are INFJ functions, the 2nd two are INFP functions, then ISTJ, then ISTP.

but it definitely doesn't work that way for everyone...

did i interpret what you said correctly?

3. Originally Posted by Nocapszy
That's a pretty unconventional extrapolation - what makes you think so?

This is, I suspect, someone who would, in theory score higher on N and F, than on J or I/E. On the four letter tests.
Think what?
And what would be the conventional extrapolation?

Yes. E/I order is linked to the J/P order.
NF >IJ.

4. Originally Posted by dissonance
the only way i can make sense of that is if you're assuming i'm 100&#37;, 100% F, and like 1% J.

so the first 2 are INFJ functions, the 2nd two are INFP functions, then ISTJ, then ISTP.

but it definitely doesn't work that way for everyone...

did i interpret what you said correctly?
Yes.

It is not one hundred per cent NF, though.
The J tilts more than just one per cent..

It should not work that way for everyone.

Where you have the INFJ cognitive processes test results? If the order of the theory does not correspond with the order of the mean INFJ average test results then I am in the wrong.

5. Originally Posted by wildcat
Yes.

It is not one hundred per cent NF, though.
The J tilts more than just one per cent..

It should not work that way for everyone.

Where you have the INFJ cognitive processes test results? If the order of the theory does not correspond with the order of the mean INFJ average test results then I am in the wrong.
oh i didn't know you were talking about averages. i'm certainly not an average INFJ.

6. Originally Posted by dissonance
oh i didn't know you were talking about averages. i'm certainly not an average INFJ.
Principally, I was not talking about the mean average. I only proposed it as a possible means to check up the theory.

I agree you are not an average INFJ.

7. Originally Posted by wildcat
Think what?
And what would be the conventional extrapolation?

Yes. E/I order is linked to the J/P order.
NF >IJ.
Well what I ordinarily see is

Ni, Fe, Ti, Se, Ne, Fi, Te, Si

In all honesty I like yours better. It fits better with what I've observed in people.

Actually, what I see most commonly, is the first two functions - the highly frequented ones - are dependable, and the others are jumbled. There's no particular order.

8. Originally Posted by Nocapszy
Actually, what I see most commonly, is the first two functions - the highly frequented ones - are dependable, and the others are jumbled. There's no particular order.
I agree. They tend to gravitate towards a certain order (since e.g. high Ne often will go at the expense of Si etc), but it's often very jumbled, function order depending on upbringing, life experiences, work, life partners, age etc.

As for the first two functions being dependable, I agree in principle, but for some reason I always get Ne higher than Fi on tests, even if I'm INFP (only marginally I, though, but no E.)

9. Asperger is just a discriminatory tool. I have been diagnosed with AS myself. You don't like someone ? Put a disorder to describe him. That's retarded.

But I don't think this was really AS. I was misdiagnosed because :

1. I have a low dopamin level.
2. Most people I knew in these times were hostile to me, and I hadn't socialised with, for "survival" reasons (i.e. not wanting to be harmed), more than not wanting to socialise with. I'm pretty outgoing with friendly people.

Be wary when talking with AS. Don't be too compliant on diagnoses.

I think, all thinking types may be diagnosed with AS.

10. I didn't know about Asperger's until I joined this forum. After reading up on it, a lot of the symptoms actually seem to fit me. Can anyone outline what would differentiate Asperger's from love-shyness or social anxiety disorder? I'm not one of those people that sees a disease in the news and automatically thinks that they have it. I just think that if I could put a name to what is different about me then I'd feel a little less like a freak. Thanks!

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