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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott N Denver View Post
    I've had them imply or say "your stupid" and "your feelings are stupid" and "your reactions are dumb" and "your such a wimp" and watched them ignore other people's feelings and push people around enough that I'm pretty soured on dealing with them. Hopefully yours are more open and well-balanced.

    Many INTJ's I've met struck me as being *very* judgemental, often from things they have said, ie judging other people.
    That's actually a pretty fair assessment. I consider myself pretty balanced but I know I can be very judgemental, even on a good day. Usually I don't say those things out loud, but I've been known to give people that look

    In large groups (or in your case concentrated in a setting that plays to our strengths and doesn't force us to learn to play nice with others) I can imagine we could get pretty tiring. Likewise, I would get pretty tired of a room full of INFPs in a bad mood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    It'd be different based on the person they were dealing with. Different people find different people draining, irritating etc.
    +1, I can be a black hole sometimes, so can my isfj friend though.

    It's mood related, anyone in a bad mood, or throwing off negative vibes, is the black hole for that day.
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    I know that I can suck out all the fun out of something just by being myself. (if that counts for anything here)

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    in regards to the OP:

    I actually have had similar thoughts in terms of how to cast "psychological evil."

    There are people who are like suns, who put out warmth and heat and help things grow who are exposed to them.

    There are people who are literal vacuums, like an absence of truth and substance, who tend to unravel reality around them due to their distortions and lies, and these lies corrupt, sicken, and reduce the people around them... which isn't much different than a black hole of sorts.
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    Do you guys think there could be pleasant black holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post

    Here is my Question:

    Have you ever come across a "Black Hole"?

    The person who absorbs all the energy in their surrounding environments.

    What type do you think the black hole person would be?
    Any strong extravert, although most likely an ExxP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    So I have been reading "A Brief History of Time" lately. And looking into physics as it pertains to interpersonal communications.

    Here is my Question:

    Have you ever come across a "Black Hole"?

    The person who absorbs all the energy in their surrounding environments.

    How would you describe a black hole personality?

    What type do you think the black hole person would be?





    *I have multiple theories on this which I may disclose after observing a few responses.
    The deadbeat person who lays around and does drugs, (or even worse, does nothing at all..) works a lower end public job. (I'm not looking down on everyone with those jobs- I for one have those jobs, too. but these specific people hate it! they hate people! ) although they are old enough, have had perfect opportunities to find other jobs, or get an education, but have shot those opportunities down with lame excuses.. they want to be stuck where they are. They have no friends for the same reason. They have no kids. They don't go on vacations. They like TV. And dark walls and dark furniture. And kraft macaroni and cheese. (Don't get me wrong- I love macaroni and cheese, too. Especially with a little spoonful of mustard added in.. I digress.)
    People who like to be stuck in ruts. They tend to talk a lot about bigger lives and better things that they want... goals that they have...but their negative Debbie-downer personalities are holding them back. NOT their life situations. There are people with terrible life situations- people who seem to have life taking a crap on them constantly- but can still have a better attitude then these black hole people..

    The types that I have known that have done this are mostly I types- I think the bulk of them being isxx types- but have seen other types do it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    So I have been reading "A Brief History of Time" lately. And looking into physics as it pertains to interpersonal communications.

    Here is my Question:

    Have you ever come across a "Black Hole"?

    The person who absorbs all the energy in their surrounding environments.

    How would you describe a black hole personality?

    What type do you think the black hole person would be?
    Ha, I just found this thread. Good one.

    I don't like to say one type is more likely than another to be an emotional black hole. Like heart mentioned many psychological/emotional black holes are dependent upon individual interaction and chemistry. Some people are toxic and obvious and interact badly with nearly everyone. I actually don't consider these people black holes because they're relatively easy to avoid. Their reputation precedes them.

    The black holes I've met tend to be the kind that blend in with the surrounding dark matter, which are how most black holes are unless they're gobbling up a sun or something. They're smart enough or maybe aware enough of themselves not to be that way all the time or only with a small group of people they feel like they can get away with it. This helps them because unlike the obvious type of black hole, the quieter ones can move from group to group finding new sources of energy to leech from with less detection.

    I have the ability to be black hole, I've seen how my energy output can replenish or deplete. Because of this I'm pretty interested in the conditions that create these kinds of people, what the triggers are. I doubt you'll be able to get rid of them, but it's always nice to know the signs. Sometimes they're unavoidable for whatever reasons and it's better to know how to work around them until you can escape.

    A good way to answer this question would be for people to think about ways they have or could be a black hole.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Have you ever come across a "Black Hole"?
    The person who absorbs all the energy in their surrounding environments.
    How would you describe a black hole personality?
    What type do you think the black hole person would be?
    I don't think I'd say that it's necessarily something that's driven by type much. Much more so on attitude and openness (which I'll define here to mean receptivity to the states of people around them). People who are down, but who can take a spark from others and lighten up aren't black holes. People who radiate doom and gloom irrespective of their company and said company's efforts to brighten things up can pretty much kill off any situation. People who consistently demand to be the center of attention can be black holes too.

    I guess the only thing I'd say in how such things might relate to type would be the mechanism that the black hole uses to kill fun. Different fun-sucking, hope-killing strokes for different folks, I guess (score one for optimism! ).

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yeah, I agree. An unhealthy ISFJ in a bad mood can suck the energy out of the happiest person on earth.
    I don't think that this is necessarily specific to ISFJ's, but from personal experience... hell yes. Like in a "you walk in the room and instantly start to cringe" way. Perhaps I'm just more vulnerable to the vibe unhappy ISFJ's give off, but yikes (happy ones, of course, I really enjoy being around).

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    A good way to answer this question would be for people to think about ways they have or could be a black hole.
    Good observation, PM .

    I think (unfortunately) that I can definitely be a black hole at times. Granted, one with a small event horizon (because, as Jock mentioned, I'm far more likely to be unnoticed than not). Two situations offhand that I have/could be a black hole (that I know of - feel free to add more):

    1. Social Settings: - usually I blend into the background, but if I'm in an engaged, lively environment and called out on to "join in" - my awkward refusal/demurral can definitely kill the mood.
    2. Professional Settings: - I can become the ultimate nitpicker and naysayer at times - I just don't let things go. If someone is glossing over an idea ("Oh, yeah, we haven't addressed that, but it'll 'work out somehow'"), I'm the one who says stuff like "Are you sure? What about X?". While I think I'm being constructive, it often kills the mood and sucks the life out of the meeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    So I have been reading "A Brief History of Time" lately. And looking into physics as it pertains to interpersonal communications.

    Here is my Question:

    Have you ever come across a "Black Hole"?

    The person who absorbs all the energy in their surrounding environments.

    How would you describe a black hole personality?

    What type do you think the black hole person would be?







    *I have multiple theories on this which I may disclose after observing a few responses.
    Moody people you have to deal with on a consistant basis. My father was a black hole. When I walked into the house I could tell if he was angry even if he wasn't in the room, the air was that charged.

    Extremely boring/no personality people can cause a black hole, if you are stuck with them for too long they will suck the lifeforce from your body.

    I'm not sure MBTI really applies in these cases.

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