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    Mine is very much like dreaming...ever see Scrubs? I'm not as narcissistic as J.D., but I do often have flashes of how I imagine something might play out in my head, as if I suddenly transport to a reality inside myself and experience it. (that sounds like such babble, I wish I could explain it better!) My actual dream life, btw, is very hyperactive. I often wake up feeling emotionally exhausted.

    Other times, it's an almost physical feeling of unexplained excitement or knots in my gut, when I know something will play out poorly. Often, for me, that initial "kick in the stomach" reaction is like the knock on the door that signals an inward retreat to view how something might happen. First, visceral reaction, then, inward movie theater-like exploration.

    This, combined with my big F often are responsible for my tenancy to get behind the eyes of others, and I guess I mean that in a very literal sense. I find it easy to guess, from their vantage point, how life might next play out for them, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    As an ENFP I have recently realised I understand everything by looking out. I judge it by something that is from within. And I ponder these judgments, and the meaning of what is within, what it is to be human, etc. But I never have a clear picture of within and actually see it. So what do you see within? What's in this strange realm that you guys have dominant function access to? What are we missing?
    based on that, id say you need to develop your inferior functions a bit more

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    For me Ni (with Te) is a process of imagining a future reality. I work as a site/land development engineer. So I imagine (see in my mind/build in my mind) a finished project. I then spend time in my inner world working out the process to accomplish that project and bring it into reality. I explore the potential pitfalls and develop novel approaches to solve problems that may arise. I take breaks from that process to draw it all on paper, until the plan is complete.

    I tend to enjoy the "reality" of these visions more than the reality of reality much of the time. I probably build many different things in my mind for every thing that actually gets built.

    This process plays out similarly with political and philosophical musings. I walk through my perceptions of the world around me and take those perceptions inside to connect and rearrange them to develop a system of "how things are." This "how-things-are" system is then used to figure out approaches for how to solve the worlds problems. I then try to use these understandings of the big picture to inform ways I am affecting the world around me.

    My desire is to step from project to project, accomplishment to accomplishment, to build experience and capitol to have greater influence in changing the world around me for the better.

    In other words, the bulk of the work is done internally. Then some of that work is translated to external action. But even the stuff that is never externalized develops skill sets that impact that which is externalized.

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    i'm still working on answering this question and i hope this thread picks up.

    my first response is that it looks like web diagrams, flow charts, t-charts, lists, murals, collages, montages, quotations and parentheticals, footnotes, landscapes, musical visualizers, science images, 3-D virtual reality, micrscope slides, the weird program on what i think are the latest version of ipods that has great bouncing jukebox scroll features, networks, stacks of hyperlinks built into web pages and a wikipedia day gone awry w/ tabs tabs tabs, graphic design and advertisements, symbols and other mysteries, a few poems here and there mixed in with passages of scripture and things remembered like little plaques from childhood, etc.

    it's all these linguistically and visually organized connections between things. large conceptual overmaps. areas that are really musical go from the black and white just words printed on the page to like a weird technicolor and increase in saturation and intensity and finish as they become more musical. very magic mushroom. lots of arrows and connecting bands. lights like an airport runway meets a neural network. overviews of individual systems working together in a biology textbook with the little transportational devices. a floor of wall street traders with notes in their hands and raised voices trying to get "my" attention.

    we are very skilled at arranging our internal mappings and understandings. maps maps maps. the metaphors connect it all for infj and the hierarchy connects it all for intj. we both like to violate it (gasp- humor!). Ne doms arrange externally and their desks/computers/brains are often a mess. when i need it i'll find it, etc. we have taken more time to put everything in its right place. to linger longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Internal world doesn't "look like" anything. Mostly just pondering on random things... how something is like something else. And that reminds you of yet another thing. And then you wonder, whether you can apply to pattern to still more things.


    I'm having a hard time seeing my inner world as something of vast complexity and metaphorical haziness - I mean, I wouldn't describe it as such, but maybe others would see it in that way.

    I simply have always spent a large portion of my life contemplating, thinking, observing, musing, drifting, theorizing, critiquing, categorizing, and all sorts of other things. When others are in the world of action and interaction, I'm more often than not sitting back and contemplating the nature of what they're doing, who they are, how they tie into the broader context, etc etc. And sometimes I let myself drift down memory lane, which is mostly a sentimental/feeling-oriented thing. Finally, one of my favorite mental themes that I muse over is Time -- past, present, and future -- extended forward and back thousands of years, and pondering recurring themes.
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    I've always felt my inner world to look like - light. Nothing but bright light surrounding some sort of an transparent "core". Light going through the "core". And then things just pop up, depending on whatever I'm thinking about at the moment and then connecting all of those things that pop up. The speed at which they pop up differs as well; going faster/slower and it cannot really be controlled (I guess it depends on my energy level and whether I'm willing to invest a certain amount of energy into whatever I'm currently thinking about). This cannot be explained properly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudur View Post
    For me Ni (with Te) is a process of imagining a future reality. I work as a site/land development engineer. So I imagine (see in my mind/build in my mind) a finished project. I then spend time in my inner world working out the process to accomplish that project and bring it into reality. I explore the potential pitfalls and develop novel approaches to solve problems that may arise. I take breaks from that process to draw it all on paper, until the plan is complete.

    I tend to enjoy the "reality" of these visions more than the reality of reality much of the time. I probably build many different things in my mind for every thing that actually gets built.

    This process plays out similarly with political and philosophical musings. I walk through my perceptions of the world around me and take those perceptions inside to connect and rearrange them to develop a system of "how things are." This "how-things-are" system is then used to figure out approaches for how to solve the worlds problems. I then try to use these understandings of the big picture to inform ways I am affecting the world around me.

    My desire is to step from project to project, accomplishment to accomplishment, to build experience and capitol to have greater influence in changing the world around me for the better.

    In other words, the bulk of the work is done internally. Then some of that work is translated to external action. But even the stuff that is never externalized develops skill sets that impact that which is externalized.
    Yeah, that's how it works for me too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    i'm still working on answering this question and i hope this thread picks up.

    my first response is that it looks like web diagrams, flow charts, t-charts, lists, murals, collages, montages, quotations and parentheticals, footnotes, landscapes, musical visualizers, science images, 3-D virtual reality, micrscope slides, the weird program on what i think are the latest version of ipods that has great bouncing jukebox scroll features, networks, stacks of hyperlinks built into web pages and a wikipedia day gone awry w/ tabs tabs tabs, graphic design and advertisements, symbols and other mysteries, a few poems here and there mixed in with passages of scripture and things remembered like little plaques from childhood, etc.

    it's all these linguistically and visually organized connections between things. large conceptual overmaps. areas that are really musical go from the black and white just words printed on the page to like a weird technicolor and increase in saturation and intensity and finish as they become more musical. very magic mushroom. lots of arrows and connecting bands. lights like an airport runway meets a neural network. overviews of individual systems working together in a biology textbook with the little transportational devices. a floor of wall street traders with notes in their hands and raised voices trying to get "my" attention.

    we are very skilled at arranging our internal mappings and understandings. maps maps maps. the metaphors connect it all for infj and the hierarchy connects it all for intj. we both like to violate it (gasp- humor!). Ne doms arrange externally and their desks/computers/brains are often a mess. when i need it i'll find it, etc. we have taken more time to put everything in its right place. to linger longer.
    This is actually really interesting, and makes perfect sense. I think Ne and Ni are almost perfectly consistent with each other, just applied in different domains. Like we see the external world as connections and maps in the same way you do with the internal world. And the links are sometimes just as entertaining and crazy, except you need to watch yourself with what you notice sometimes. You get into a habit of acknowledging the strangeness of it then just committing it to memory or having a small internal giggle about it. Almost every scene has something interesting in it to explore or amuse you. Probably why we look like happy hyperactive munchkins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky is BLUE! View Post
    I've always felt my inner world to look like - light. Nothing but bright light surrounding some sort of an transparent "core". Light going through the "core". And then things just pop up, depending on whatever I'm thinking about at the moment and then connecting all of those things that pop up. The speed at which they pop up differs as well; going faster/slower and it cannot really be controlled (I guess it depends on my energy level and whether I'm willing to invest a certain amount of energy into whatever I'm currently thinking about). This cannot be explained properly...
    I get that (I think). I wanted to say "a prism," and then despaired of being able to explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyGrass View Post
    Mine is very much like dreaming...ever see Scrubs? I'm not as narcissistic as J.D., but I do often have flashes of how I imagine something might play out in my head, as if I suddenly transport to a reality inside myself and experience it. (that sounds like such babble, I wish I could explain it better!) My actual dream life, btw, is very hyperactive. I often wake up feeling emotionally exhausted.

    Other times, it's an almost physical feeling of unexplained excitement or knots in my gut, when I know something will play out poorly. Often, for me, that initial "kick in the stomach" reaction is like the knock on the door that signals an inward retreat to view how something might happen. First, visceral reaction, then, inward movie theater-like exploration.

    This, combined with my big F often are responsible for my tenancy to get behind the eyes of others, and I guess I mean that in a very literal sense. I find it easy to guess, from their vantage point, how life might next play out for them, as well.
    It's similar for me. There's the 'active internal world' which is basically the above, and the 'pensive internal world' which is basically exploring the things I find important and constructing new interesting things.

    My F isn't as strong but I can get a decent sense of what the other person's perspective is.
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