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    In either case, it's a creative definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post
    Being fucked + extenuating circumstances CAN = "victim of society" My meaning of that term means that this chemical imbalance plus lack of universal health care can and does lead these people to become homeless. Thus being ignored by society.
    Yeah "victim" probably isn't the best word. When there's a victim, there is usually an aggressor and the victim is taken advantage of. If society collectively threw rocks at and stole from schizophrenics whenever they saw them, then they'd be victims. They are victims of circumstance if anything, not society.

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    ^ It's a term. I'm not going to nit pick it. I used the words of the previous poster for expediency (and I clarified the term and explained what I meant by that term) If I were to redefine every term that's thrown about then we'd be here all day. I'd rather everyone focus on the general idea behind my posts rather than one word in it. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Yeah "victim" probably isn't the best word. When there's a victim, there is usually an aggressor and the victim is taken advantage of. If society collectively threw rocks at and stole from schizophrenics whenever they saw them, then they'd be victims. The are victims of circumstance, not society.
    Yes. I'm all for getting affordable mental health medication to those who need it, but the use of the "victim" label for all and sundry sorts of unfortunate situations is out of control.
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    Now I know why we don't have a great health care system. A bunch of INTP's are still talking about what the new system should be named.
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    Some even wonder if it's a great idea in the first place. They're looking into meanings and costs and benefits as you wait, victimized by their deliberation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post


    Now I know why we don't have a great health care system. A bunch of INTP's are still talking about what the new system should be named.
    A lot of health reform is going to be passed in the next couple years, the plans to cut costs and increase efficiency have broad support, right now people are mostly debating on whether to include a public option or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InaF3157 View Post
    Being fucked = you're a victim of society? Certainly it is unfortunate and calls for a solution but how does this create victims of society (rather than of bad biochemistry) out of the mentally unstable.
    Why is your post assuming them to be mutually exclusive? Can one not be, to a degree, a victim of society AND a 'victim' of bad biochemistry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Why is your post assuming them to be mutually exclusive? Can one not be, to a degree, a victim of society AND a 'victim' of bad biochemistry?
    It's not mutually exclusive if society actually drove the insane to mental illness (e.g. terrorizing a person into PTSD). But that's not the sense indicated there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InaF3157 View Post
    It's not mutually exclusive if society actually drove the insane to mental illness (e.g. terrorizing a person into PTSD). But that's not the sense indicated there.
    There's more than one role a society can play. You only assume as a cause. What about maintenance? Or exacerbating? By your line of thought, it's a debate of nature VERSUS nurture....do you have any reasoning for why you are negating nurture - of a more global scale, say, society?

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