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    This thread is about the decision function in men and women.
    Question 1: T women, how does the world treat you compared to F women?
    Question 2: F men, how does the world treat you compared to T men?
    Question 3: F women, how does the world treat you compared to T women?
    Question 4: T men, how does the world treat you compared to F men?

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    Answer 4: In general. Much more carefully. As if I am delicate and breakable. As if I have much to hide from the world. Which is not the case.
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    Answer 3 - Better, society expects women to be emotional so in this we are well matched lol. On the other hand it must be alot harder for T women because they are seen as bitches for not being emotional enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BerberElla View Post
    Answer 3 - Better, society expects women to be emotional so in this we are well matched lol. On the other hand it must be alot harder for T women because they are seen as bitches for not being emotional enough.
    Yeah.

    I can play the F game enough to do decently, but I always feel cold and bitchy compared to gushy fem-fem women. All the guys seem to go after li'l miss bubbly, and my intellectual approach to things doesn't seem to draw much attention.

    Then again, I think I'm taken more seriously at work because of it. (My F friend I think comes off as unfocused and not rational in our field of computer software dev.) ...although i don't feel taken as seriously as a T guy. Meh.
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    Question 4: T men, how does the world treat you compared to F men?

    A little more seriously.

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    2: i just assume some people think i'm either a. gay b. childish or c. just kinda silly. there's many different sides to the equation, and when i go into Ti mode, F types get a little scared bc i change so drastically. my default face is usually pretty tightly composed, but with people i know well i am much more loose and spontaneous, or at least capable of angling in weird little directions/lines of flight, play lots of games, tease, juggling and doing tricks, keep things interesting, etc. the males usually are shocked that i would actually be a serious person bc it is so antithetical to what serious means to them. the females have a much better sense of this, are much more aware, and view me deeply idealistic but a bit tightly wound and a bit constricted, i would imagine in the Ni or Si dom introverted perceiving sense (which translates to inferior extraverted perceiving and going with teh flow and being very very j at times, wanting that security and hyperlocalized focus to help me feel structured and secure, etc). lotta tripwires on rainy days.

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    Answer 4: A) I tend to be level-headed most of the time and that gets me a lot of respect from people.

    B) Society kind of expects the ideal man to be some macho, aggressive, alpha-dog type. I think the alpha dog mentality is mostly foolish, but the alpha dogs don't mess with me either. When an alpha-dog messes with me he ends up looking foolish instead, so people tend to give me respect because of that.

    In contrast I think a lot of F men realize that society expects them to be either level-headed or an alpha-dog and also they shouldn't take things personally. Since F's are not naturally this way this causes a lot of F men to be insecure about who they are. Some of the F men I've seen try to act extra macho to compensate for their F side, but it's really a facade to hide their insecurity. Well that's my $.02 anyway.
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    I'm not in the mood to give a coherent answer. Instead, I'll just give you an idea of what I think about gender roles:



    Do you get all the implicit humor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    In contrast I think a lot of F men realize that society expects them to be either level-headed or an alpha-dog and also they shouldn't take things personally. Since F's are not naturally this way this causes a lot of F men to be insecure about who they are. Some of the F men I've seen try to act extra macho to compensate for their F side, but it's really a facade to hide their insecurity. Well that's my $.02 anyway.
    definitely, if i could be a different type, it would be entp. being really comfortable and in your own skin in the moment helps so much (dom extraverted perceiver). much better at improvising, catching the general flow, having a ton of branching possibilities hit you, and Ti to back it up (which is the best game-playing function, i think). Ti helps a ton bc it takes apart situations very effectively and has the most complex understanding pre-arranged of causality, sees how one thing leads to another better than any other function. it may at times be unpractical, but it's overall grasp is the best of all in terms of recognizing and strategizing. Te would probably just punch you in the face (much more direct).

    for us introverted F types, we are not very practiced at handling ourselves in the moment, and holistic type F judgment is slow to detect where the circuit is broken and what is wrong. our method of influencing is mood-based and affective, helping clarify feelings and turn them into a very base rudimentary form of logic that improves communication, discussion, etc. whereas as a dude you're supposed to be a fighter when shit goes wrong. defend honor and attack those in your way. it takes us a while to translate/convert/symbolize experience into the language of our internal introverted perception environment, i think eventually things like zen and effortless mastery and judo are the way in which we navigate ourselves in the external world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I'm not in the mood to give a coherent answer. Instead, I'll just give you an idea of what I think about gender roles:



    Do you get all the implicit humor?
    I guess my response is, "Yeah, it's sh*t, honestly... but we don't get a choice about whether or not to defecate. It's part of human physiology. So how do we deal with it?"
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