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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
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    I don't know, but there's got to be something better than expecting/demanding all men to be masculine and all women to be feminine. Because that's extremely psychologically/emotionally damaging to the ones that aren't.

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    I like F men. Some T men (mostly extraverted ones) give me a rough, unrefined vibe that is damaging to my delicate sensibilities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I don't know, but there's got to be something better than expecting/demanding all men to be masculine and all women to be feminine. Because that's extremely psychologically/emotionally damaging to the ones that aren't.
    I imagine it's getting better year after year for F men and T women as society becomes more and more socially liberal and gender roles become more nuanced. So they got that goin for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortabunt View Post
    Question 1: T women, how does the world treat you compared to F women?
    My views tend to clash a lot with how people 'expect' me to behave. I'm very tomboy-ish, so sometimes people overlook the fact that I am female-bodied and treat my behaviour on its own, but there are a few people who seem to have a problem with my opinions or behaviour. I've tried to do the F thing in the past, but it sounded more like I was mocking F women, which didn't work well either.

    I think most of the difference is that I've had to learn restraint that I probably wouldn't have needed to learn if I was a T guy. Which is probably part of the reason why I find socializing so exhausting.

    I agree with Athenian on this. Gender roles are very screwed up, and from my perspective they seem to do much more damage than anything else.
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    Question 1: T women, how does the world treat you compared to F women?

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    Like we aren't as feminine, as if we're more butch because we use logic instead of emotions. Which is why I tend to hide my logic and come across more as a ENFP than as an ENTP. Society has a weird view of both men and women which tends to not only oppress women but men as well, it's really a lose-lose situation which is why I tend to dislike extreme feminists who blame men for everything because they are just as affected by gender stereotyping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I don't know, but there's got to be something better than expecting/demanding all men to be masculine and all women to be feminine. Because that's extremely psychologically/emotionally damaging to the ones that aren't.
    I don't see it terms of blatant extremes like that -- usually gender expectations and biases are far more nefarious and subtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I don't know, but there's got to be something better than expecting/demanding all men to be masculine and all women to be feminine. Because that's extremely psychologically/emotionally damaging to the ones that aren't.
    this sounds bad, but just ditch the sensates and find more iNtuitives. pretty much solves the entire problem, in my experience. N types will maybe reject something at first, but given a bit of time, they'll come around.

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    I am not always treated as an "F" woman. Fi and Fe can be totally different creatures. I find I may be treated as a "T" woman actually, until it is discovered that I am quite sensitive. Then people become very gentle with me, to the point where it can feel condescending almost. Then it's all "honey" and "sweetheart" in a soft voice.
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    Question 3: F women, how does the world treat you compared to T women?

    My F is kind of balanced and I never really show it. But I think we're being treated equally. Where I live I see that T women get as much respect as Fs or even more sometimes.
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    Growing up as a T woman was hard, but I'm in the groove of it now and it's all good in the hood.

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