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strychnine

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I agree. In my field you see a lot of SJ higher ups too. I guess there are just too many factors to go into intelligence. (Which is why it's like talking about religion in typo c language.)

I agree with that, but to put it simply, intelligence could simply be based on one's skill with their dominant function? We usually only talk (on this forum) about relative strength of an individual's functions to determine their type, but inter-person (rather than intra-) comparisons could be carried out similarly. Well, maybe not, but they could be, in theory! Then it would account for all various types of intelligence. Because otherwise, as you said, no one metric can measure everything.

Edit: Then again, you have to wonder how intelligent a person is if they just have unchecked dominant and a useless auxiliary. But anyway...
 

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If that was true entps geniuses would go raving mad whenever they'd do anything new and stimulating, though it may explain alot of enfjs' scandalous behavior.
 

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If that was true entps geniuses would go raving mad whenever they'd do anything new and stimulating, though it may explain alot of enfjs' scandalous behavior.

Yeah, I agree, it doesn't work. I retract my previous post.
 

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Consider the relationship between somatotypes and iq, and then the relationship between somatotypes and mbti.

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There is a general relationship between iq and somatotype. Closest to the top of the chart (endomorphic types) are the lower iq ranges (below 50th percentile). The middle of the chart represents the 100 iq range, the lower left is above average iq, and the lower right the superior-genius range.
 

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I remember that somatotype guy.. He typed me INTP. Where did he go anyways? I didn't finish arguing with him.

Anyhow, even if I was, I'm nowhere near "super-genius" level (not being self-effacing or anything.. just saying).
 

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Consider the relationship between somatotypes and iq, and then the relationship between somatotypes and mbti.

new-mbti-chart.gif


There is a general relationship between iq and somatotype. Closest to the top of the chart (endomorphic types) are the lower iq ranges (below 50th percentile). The middle of the chart represents the 100 iq range, the lower left is above average iq, and the lower right the superior-genius range.


So let's get this straight....

ESxx types are dumb.
ENxxs, most INPs & ISFJs & ISTPs are average.
INFJs, ISFPs & some ISFJs & NFPs are above average.
IxTJs & some ISTPs & NTPs are super geniuses.

:rolleyes:


And as an ectomorph, this would make me a super genius INTJ or something :D
 

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Consider the relationship between somatotypes and iq, and then the relationship between somatotypes and mbti.

new-mbti-chart.gif


There is a general relationship between iq and somatotype. Closest to the top of the chart (endomorphic types) are the lower iq ranges (below 50th percentile). The middle of the chart represents the 100 iq range, the lower left is above average iq, and the lower right the superior-genius range.

lol.

I guess in my case we just have to do a little math to solve the equation.

ESFP+ Ectomorph divided by 2= above average IQ?
 

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Maybe? if you took those numbers - I don't know what they mean anyway, waist size in cm? - such as 621 and divide it by the square root of pi to derive your iq.
 

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At http://politicsandprosperity.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/intelligence-personality-politics-and-happiness/ was written:
Other personality traits being the same, an iNtuitive person (one who grasps patterns and seeks possibilities) is 25 times more likely to have a high IQ than a Sensing person (one who focuses on sensory details and the here-and-now).
Again, other traits being the same, an Introverted person is 2.6 times more likely to have a high IQ than one who is Extraverted; a Thinking (logic-oriented) person is 4.5 times more likely to have a high IQ than a Feeling (people-oriented) person; and a Judging person (one who seeks closure) is 1.6 times as likely to have a high IQ than a Perceiving person (one who likes to keep his options open).
Moreover, if you encounter an INTJ, there is a 22% probability that his IQ places him in the top 2 percent of the population. (Disclosure: I am an INTJ.) Next are INTP, at 14%; ENTJ, 8%; ENTP, 5%; and INFJ, 5%. (The next highest type is the INFP at 3%.) The five types (INTJ, INTP, ENTJ, ENTP, and INFJ) account for 78% of the high-IQ population but only 15% of the total population.**
Four of the five most-intelligent types are NTs, as one would expect, given the probabilities cited above. Those same probabilities lead to the dominance of INTJs and INTPs, which account for 49% of the Mensa membership but only 5% of the general population.**
Persons with the S preference bring up the rear, when it comes to taking IQ tests.**
 

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Thomas is clearly a brilliant blogger! :D

(Formulated some very insightful studies deep within the realms of his INTP diverticuli, a country rift with the world's most renowned scientists and doctors and great specialists in Shitism and Ecolic Sciences.)

Edit: Mods, carry on to the graveyard.

Take it with a grain of salt if you will, but I don't know about the 50th percentile line being in the middle, or where it should be located, definitely above esfp in order to bring that type above average.
 

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Maybe? if you took those numbers - I don't know what they mean anyway, waist size in cm? - such as 621 and divide it by the square root of pi to derive your iq.

More than likely.
Damn.Why is your waist size so much lower than mine? :(
 

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Take it with a grain of salt if you will, but I don't know about the 50th percentile line being in the middle, or where it should be located, definitely above esfp in order to bring that type above average.

So uh... which old member has reincarnated this time?
 

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More than likely.
Damn.Why is your waist size so much lower than mine? :(

Generally, S types have a lower metabolism - whatever that means - than N types. I guess it means burning fat versus storing fat. I'm getting to the age where I'm finally beginning to fill out in the middle, and yes my personality is changing.
 

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So uh... which old member has reincarnated this time?

I've never been here before today, I take typology seriously. I throw out hypotheses from time to time everywhere else I've been online.
 

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I've never been here before today, I take typology seriously. I throw out hypotheses from time to time everywhere else I've been online.

Oh, it just seems that you are so advanced in the forum lingo. It is clear that you are ahead of your time in type C terms. Best of luck to you, here :)
 

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Oh, it just seems that you are so advanced in the forum lingo. It is clear that you are ahead of your time in type C terms. Best of luck to you, here :)

Thanks. Socionics says the esfp and intp have the best chance together. I don't know what type C terms are, but I've been doing typology for over 20 years.
 

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As for the topic, I admittedly put the 50th percentile iq line arbitrarily dead in the middle. So if an esfp comes along and cries foul, I take the suggestion seriously.

As for the Thomas blog quote, it says absolutely nothing about esfp iq versus other types. It does not even speak to functions, but merely to letters. The information on the blog clearly has only a very broad application to this problem.
 

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As for the topic, I admittedly put the 50th percentile iq line arbitrarily dead in the middle. So if an esfp comes along and cries foul, I take the suggestion seriously.

As for the Thomas blog quote, it says absolutely nothing about esfp iq versus other types. It does not even speak to functions, but merely to letters. The information on the blog clearly has only a very broad application to this problem.

Yes, it is a problem. And Thomas' blog barely touches upon it. Though Thomas clearly has a deep understanding of the matter, he only touches upon it. He then explains it in a way that the general audience can comprehend. I also take MBTI seriously. Naturally, I take Thomas' blog seriously as well.

(Edit: End sarcasm. If you do consider functions... this doesn't explain why ESTJ's are amongst the mentally retarded, yet ISTJ's tend to be geniuses.)
 
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