User Tag List

123 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 97

Thread: N = alien?

  1. #1
    The High Priestess Amargith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    Enfp
    Enneagram
    497 sx/so
    Socionics
    IEE Fi
    Posts
    14,658

    Default N = alien?

    Anyone else feel like they don't belong in this world, on this planet and especially in this society? People have been telling me for years that I need to adapt to society and stop being weird. And I've been feeling for years like I don't belong here. Also, could it have something to do with being a very extreme N?
    ★ڿڰۣ✿ℒoѵℯ✿ڿڰۣ★





    "Harm none, do as ye will”

  2. #2
    Senior Member Snow Turtle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    1,335

    Default

    Most likely. I do sort of identify with the feeling of not being part of society, yet at the same time there are occasions where I get the impression that I'm normal like every other individual. For that reason I chalk the difference down to society mostly being a mask.

    (That doesn't explain people telling you need to adapt to society though. I've never had that problem personally. Perhaps it's because my values and behaviour aren't so extreme.)

  3. #3
    Badoom~ Skyward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    MBTI
    infj
    Enneagram
    9w1
    Posts
    1,087

    Default

    It really has to do with values. Everyone has them, and Ns value things in a different way than Ss do. Take a Swimsuit Edition of Sports Illustrated for example. I cant stand frivolous sexiness since it has nothing but show to it, but the Ss I know tend to like staring at something that's good looking for the sheer sensory pleasure of it.

    Another thing is that what counts as success in society is based off of the majority, and it's Sensors. Ns value things beyond the see-able. INFPs are powerfully value driven (Joan of Arc, kind of), INFJs value growth and honesty which can rankle Ss who are used to other Ss sugarcoating things (an INFJ WILL be mean if he thinks it'll improve the person in the long run, SPs are more now based)

    Well the gist is that Ns are less concrete and sensors cant 'read' people like other Ns can (N can distinguish patterns quickly, unlike S which, usually?, needs to see the pattern first hand. "you dont KNOW that" says the S, while the N is quite sure of their idea.

    I'm just running in circles right now... Basically its a clash of the norm (S traits like concreteness and 'having fun' or 'having the most toys compared to the Joneses') versus N traits (Truth of values, understanding things and people, et cetera)

    I'm lucky and have both N parents and a charter school with a larger N to S ratio (All the teachers but one are Ns, of the Ns most are NFs). The highschool is scary since most of the people seem so foreign to me (Ss have such a different way of communication sometimes.
    'Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius and its better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring.' - Marilyn Monroe

    This is who I am, escapist, paradise-seeker.
    -Nightwish

    Anthropology Major out of Hamline University. St. Paul, Minnesota.

  4. #4
    Queen hunter Virtual ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Enneagram
    135 so/sp
    Posts
    8,696

    Default

    I know exactly about what you are talking about.
    But I think that this does work just for N.
    If you have any letter in "extreme" zone you will have problems in life because of it.
    But you will also get a certain bonus. What others will not.

  5. #5
    Senior Member Kyrielle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    4w5
    Posts
    1,297

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Anyone else feel like they don't belong in this world, on this planet and especially in this society? People have been telling me for years that I need to adapt to society and stop being weird. And I've been feeling for years like I don't belong here. Also, could it have something to do with being a very extreme N?
    I think the issue is complex enough that it would not be isolated to just one type of function.

    I have felt the way you mentioned. I often feel like I don't belong anywhere in particular, but I do not attribute that to my personality type or to any function I use. Instead, I think it is an issue of misunderstandings, miscommunication, and misplaced judgements.
    "I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference."

    Robert Frost

  6. #6
    Striving for balance Little Linguist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    xNFP
    Posts
    6,885

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Anyone else feel like they don't belong in this world, on this planet and especially in this society? People have been telling me for years that I need to adapt to society and stop being weird. And I've been feeling for years like I don't belong here. Also, could it have something to do with being a very extreme N?
    Definitely. All the time. I don't know why, though. It has become better since I moved to Germany...
    If you are interested in language, words, linguistics, or foreign languages, check out my blog and read, post, and/or share.

  7. #7
    a scream in a vortex nanook's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    1,361

    Default

    well, type isn't the same for everyone.

    ferrari and trabby are both type=car.

    you are cool with a ferrari, but if you had a trabant you would envy a horse (type=animal).

    so yeah, your "structure" is everything that makes you, it keeps everything in place, and it includes type, so the topic cant be separated from type either, except by abstract speech. some people are just not down with their environment. a matter of integration.

  8. #8
    Striving for balance Little Linguist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    xNFP
    Posts
    6,885

    Default

    Comparing a Ferrari with a Trabby Awesome!
    If you are interested in language, words, linguistics, or foreign languages, check out my blog and read, post, and/or share.

  9. #9
    Systematic chaos Cenomite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    623

    Default

    I'm a very high N, and yeah I constantly get the vibe that people just don't understand what I'm saying as I would like them to.
    The probability that I was procrastinating when I was typing this post:

    P(have big assignment due) = 0.6
    P(posting on TypoC) = 0.2
    P(having big assignment due | posting on TypoC) = 0.7

    P(posting on TypoC | having big assignment due) = .......


    Eh, I'll finish it later.

  10. #10
    a scream in a vortex nanook's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    1,361

    Default

    actually i would like to believe that every_intuitive person has that alien thing going on. albeit i would separate it from the integration issue. because there are people who are technically highly integrated into society and who are still subjective aliens.

    but i think i know intuitive people who don't feel much like aliens.
    it seems to be a matter of identification, and this is very individual.

    every human needs a reflection to belong to, and there should be enough matching mirrors in the (family) lives of some happy intuitives.

Similar Threads

  1. Your "alien" type.
    By Xander in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 08-24-2008, 09:50 PM
  2. AlieNs in a crowded eStablishment
    By SillySapienne in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 90
    Last Post: 07-27-2008, 05:31 PM
  3. [NT] Alienation
    By schism in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 07-19-2008, 05:12 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO