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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    I don't mind, that is how people usually react.


    What that means in practical sense is that people have desire to procreate but you don't have a place in which to place those people anymore and it is cleary that you don't have enough resources to make sure that everybody live as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    What that means in practical sense is that people have desire to procreate but you don't have a place in which to place those people anymore and it is cleary that you don't have enough resources to make sure that everybody live as they should.
    That's just a practical problem.
    How does that translate to "emotions are in conflict with reality"? Emotions are reality. You have such a huge blind spot in this area, that it actually makes you say irrational things, ironically.

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    Emotions are part of being human, whether you like it or not. You will always feel emotions, whether you are aware of it or not. They will unconsciously influence your actions. You cannot escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    That's just a practical problem.
    How does that translate to "emotions are in conflict with reality"? Emotions are reality. You have such a huge blind spot in this area, that it actually makes you say irrational things, ironically.
    No, this is just shorten form.

    Word "conflict" is probably a bad translation here.

    What I am saying is that human biology is incompatibile with technological progress to some degree. Since sexual drive should have dropped to some degree with creation of modern medicine.


    But if you want to real example I can give it to you.

    Most people are hoping and want that mankind survives in this reality. But that is impossible. There are only 4 major scenarios that are possible and nither leads to survival.

    1.Mankind is destryed by it own weapons
    2.Makind is destroyed by evolution which continues until you can't see human traits in that organisms
    3.Mankind is destroyed by natural disaster(s)
    4.Mankind is consumed/upgraded by its own technology

    If you don't add God in this mankind as we know it will disappear with time.


    If you(or someone else) wants to talk about this we have other threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Emotions are part of being human, whether you like it or not. You will always feel emotions, whether you are aware of it or not. They will unconsciously influence your actions. You cannot escape.
    I don't know what this kind of a post supposed to mean. Since I don't claim that I don't have emotions and I don't understand why people have problems with that. My best guess is that it makes them happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    No, this is just shorten form.

    Word "conflict" is probably a bad translation here.

    What I am saying is that human biology is incompatibile with technological progress to some degree. Since sexual drive should have dropped to some degree with creation of modern medicine.


    But if you want to real example I can give it to you.

    Most people are hoping and want that mankind survives in this reality. But that is impossible. There are only 4 major scenarios that are possible and nither leads to survival.

    1.Mankind is destryed by it own weapons
    2.Makind is destroyed by evolution which continues until you can't see human traits in that organisms
    3.Mankind is destroyed by natural disaster(s)
    4.Mankind is consumed/upgraded by its own technology

    If you don't add God in this mankind as we know it will disappear with time.


    If you(or someone else) wants to talk about this we have other threads.
    Perhaps you are confusing emotion with ethics?

    Sexual desire is a biological drive, much like hunger. It's not an emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Perhaps you are confusing emotion with ethics?

    Sexual desire is a biological drive, much like hunger. It's not an emotion.
    I could be many things since or languages are quite different.

    True, sexual desire is not emotion but to me it looks like that standard set of emotions prevents seeing this as a quite large problem.

    What do you think about my second example?



    The reason why my staitments/arguments look so shallow is because I am trying to make things as simple as possible since this is off topic conversation to some degree. If you want I can create longer explanations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    What do you think about my second example?
    That's what I was referring to in the ethics vs. emotions question.

    You can be emotional but unethical, or ethical, but unemotional.

    Ethics are rational.

    Are you advocating against ethics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    That's what I was referring to in the ethics vs. emotions question.

    You can be emotional but unethical, or ethical, but unemotional.

    Ethics are rational.

    Are you advocating against ethics?

    No I don't have problem with ethics. I can even get annoyed if people don't use it enough in really life. But to be honest, when it comes to big picture I have doubts.

    Can you explain connection between my example and ethics?
    Since toward my clasification of things my example is outcome of scientific theories. There is a connection between the two but it is not that strong towards my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    No I don't have problem with ethics. I can even get annoyed if people don't use it enough in really life. But to be honest, when it comes to big picture I have doubts.

    Can you explain connection between my example and ethics?
    Since toward my clasification of things my example is outcome of scientific theories. There is a connection between the two but it is not that strong towards my opinion.
    You're not really making a lot of sense. I know there is the language barrier, but still.

    You haven't talked about emotions at all.

    Are you saying that a very emotional person would have trouble accepting the conclusions you have drawn on a 'scientific' basis? So what? Since all you are presenting are doomsday scenarios, I don't see how your attitude is advantageous....
    But perhaps I misunderstand.
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