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    Default Will someone explain the entire mood thing?

    I as a person I am always pretty much "myself". I don't have those things that people call change of moods.
    So I am wondering if people want to talk about this.



    To me it is interesting to look at this in other people.

    This is also one of the main reasons why I don't place too much weight on words of other people. Since they match their mood.


    If they are in a good mode they say nice things to me and if they are in a bad one they are not so nice. But the thing is that nothing has really changed about me. The only thing that has really changed is mood of the other person.

    This is interesting even from the perspective of a third person.

    GOOD

    Moody person : happy , friendly/accepting , talkative ...........
    Me: reserved , cold and analytical


    BAD

    Moody person : unhappy , stressed , not so accepting , angry .............
    Me: reserved , cold , analytical and a little bit more distand since I need time too think things through.



    This is also main reason why I am high self monitoring and calculating person . Since I need to match the moods of other people..

    Here is one example.
    If someone is yelling at you it is good to turn somewhat hostile. If you don't the other person will be even more ofended. This way I at least allow other person to vent.

    Also I have noticed that in the mood/picture thread Fs are more numerous that Ts.



    What do you think is the biggest engine of mood swings in you?
    How does it feel to have one of those swings?
    Would you change this trait if you could or at least weaken it?

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    This is so going to bring out the whole PMSing theme.

    IMO I'm pretty much in control of my moods, but I do have moods. What I notice the most are not change of moods but changes in energy levels, WHICH ISN'T THE SAME.
    Even if I'm pissed off or whatever it's rarely to an extreme and I never really feel like being aggressive to other people, I'll just take some time alone and fix it in the worst cases. Otherwise it won't even bother me.

    Moods can be called 'a flavor of conscience'.
    Now the effect of moods is not really to change 'who\how you are'
    It's more about changing the way you'll react to things, I know, you could say it's pretty much the same since we can be analyzed behavioraly but I think it's important to talk about the mood as a modification of the input\output relation, a 'filter' rather than a dramatic change of one's personality, because then we'd all be schyzo. That could be a problem.
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    I have moods, and they're mostly dependent on my menstrual cycle and/or what I have to do for work.

    I know that sometimes I act bitchy and annoyed and extra-distant... but it doesn't feel like I'm being "not me". It feels like I'm being me, except that I care more about things that are normally irrelevant and unimportant. Then a couple of days later I start bleeding and I know why. This happened for a few years before I finally figured it out, and took my anger and irritability as a sign to stock up on tampons.

    I agree with Eck, it's more a change in how I react to things than who I actually am.

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    Males and females are pretty different on that level.

    TO make it short men have a pretty stable flow of mood\behavior modifying hormons all year round while a girl's hormonal levels will vary more
    But males aggression levels are higher on the other hand so they are more likely to 'externalize' their bad moods while a girl's issue will be rather focused on dealing with more or less sudden changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    IMO I'm pretty much in control of my moods, but I do have moods. What I notice the most are not change of moods but changes in energy levels, WHICH ISN'T THE SAME.
    Yeah, same here. But if I do get angry, it will last for a very short time. Then I'll be pleased again.

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    Although I know I can change or at least minimize one of my 'moods', I generally allow them to take over. It's almost like a Chinese finger trap; if I stop resisting the mood, I will come out of it more quickly.

    I could also compare it to being swept up by a river, with all the turbulence, rush and wonder that comes with it. Again, if I resist, I will surely drown; if I relax and let it take me, I have better odds of coming out of it safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    What do you think is the biggest engine of mood swings in you?
    How does it feel to have one of those swings?
    Would you change this trait if you could or at least weaken it?
    well...the whole idea that you honestly don't understand is completely alien to me...like you're asking what ARE these things you call feelings?

    something makes me feel a certain way which puts me in a certain mood.
    to change it would be to be less affected by feelings which would make me someone else so..no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    well...the whole idea that you honestly don't understand is completely alien to me...like you're asking what ARE these things you call feelings?

    something makes me feel a certain way which puts me in a certain mood.
    to change it would be to be less affected by feelings which would make me someone else so..no.
    That is why I ask. I can find some joy in doing some things but to actually tansform myself like that is not my thing. Same thing is with changing my opinions because of this. Since they are constant and they can only be changed by thinking. Get me excited is very hard.

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    Hm. Thats an interesting topic.
    (I believe to say that we're not ourselves because of change of mood is false though. That's human nature.)

    Anyways, I place some emphasis on my current emotion. I happen to be usually in a good mood, though, since that is what I strive for, and theres nothing to be in a bad mood about. A lot of work stress and responsibility can put me in a bad mood sometimes. But for me, I think that I almost always appear to be the same. I don't let my moods affect other people, or suddenly become unaccepting and volatile because I'm in a bad mood. In a good mood i'm just likely to laugh and smile more, and engage in conversation. In a bad mood I'm simply likely to be more reserved, cold, and distant, but always maintain an air of stability and amiability.
    What does it feel like to change moods? Unnoticable.
    Would I change it? No. I'm a pretty level headed feeler. I don't let emotions get the best of me. I have them, I acknowledge them and nurture them, but I don't let them control my life. I like being this way. It would be hard to live life as fully as I do without emotions and moods, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    GOOD

    Moody person : happy , friendly/accepting , talkative ...........
    Me: reserved , cold and analytical


    BAD

    Moody person : unhappy , stressed , not so accepting , angry .............
    Me: reserved , cold , analytical and a little bit more distand since I need time too think things through.
    As I read these descriptions, I just recalled what I read recently.
    It's within the "P-types" thing (another variant of MBTI); it's based on Kretschner's division:
    It divides people onto two groups. It's analogous with sensing and intuiting, and here it is called cyclothymia and schizothymia. These two groups are measured by different meter:

    Inside the two main groups there is a further dual division, according as the cyclothymic temperament is habitually more on the gay or sad side, and according as the schizothymic temperament tends towards the sensitive or the cold pole.
    as far as cyclothymes are concerned, we have the empirical fact that the more gay are usually the more mobile, while those who belong to the moderate class with an inclination to depression, are usually more comfortable and slow. This we should expect from long clinical experience of the close connection between bright excitability, swift flights of ideas, and psychomotor facility as manic symptoms, and in melancholic symptomatology the connection of depression and inhibition of thought and will. And among healthy cyclothymic temperaments a certain mood-disposition usually goes with a certain psychic tempo, so that gayness and mobility are often bound up with the hypomanic type of temperament, and a tendency to depression and slowness with the melancholic type.
    But on the other hand such fixed relations between psychaesthesia and definite psychic rhythms are not to be recognised in the schizothyme, in that with the tender hyperaesthetics we often find astonishing tenacity in feeling and will, and, vice versa, capricious instability with people of pronouncedly cold indolence. So that in the schizothymic circle we often meet with all four combinations: sensitive as well as cold tenacity, and jerky sensitivity as well as capricious indolence.
    Cyclothymic psychomotility is distinguished by the natural quality of reaction and bodily movement, which is now quick, now slow, but (apart from severe pathological inhibitions) always rounded and adequate to the stimulus. While among schizothymes we often meet with psychomotor peculiarities, and particularly in the lack of adequate immediacy between psychic stimulus and motor reaction, in the form of aristocratic, reserved, very restrained, or affectively-lamed, or finally occasionally inhibited, stiff, or timid motility.
    So basically, it says that cyclothymes are being measured on the continuum happines/sadness, optimism/pessimism.
    Schizothymes, on the other hand, are being measured on the continuum sensitivity/unsensitivity, awareness/unawareness.

    It is pretty interesting theory, and it might partially explain the problematic, or might not.
    Nevermind, here's the link with full descriptions and information, if someone will be interested more deeply:
    PTypes - The Four Temperaments

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