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  • ESF linear

    0 0%
  • ESF trigonal

    0 0%
  • EST linear

    1 2.70%
  • EST trigonal

    0 0%
  • ENF linear

    2 5.41%
  • ENF trigonal

    5 13.51%
  • ENT linear

    0 0%
  • ENT trigonal

    7 18.92%
  • ISF linear

    1 2.70%
  • ISF trigonal

    2 5.41%
  • IST linear

    0 0%
  • IST trigonal

    1 2.70%
  • INF linear

    1 2.70%
  • INF trigonal

    8 21.62%
  • INT linear

    1 2.70%
  • INT trigonal

    8 21.62%
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  1. #1
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    Question Which one of this models is closer to your picture of the world ?

    In MBTI there is the F/T scale.

    But I want to test something that is going around my head for sometime.
    I want to see how people see this since it has pretty much nothing to do with MBTI.

    I am curious about which model people find closer to their way of looking at the things, not which one is more correct.

    There are two models linear and triangular one.

    Linerar has two ends; Good emotions , Bad emotions.
    So everything is expressed as a raito of emotions and logic is a helping tool.


    Trigonal has three ends : Good emotions , Bad emotions and Logic
    Here there are three components and every person has a proportion of those three.



    Linear model


    Good emotions Bad emotions
    O---------------------O


    Trigonal model


    Good emotions Bad emotions
    O---------------------O
    \ /
    \ /
    \ /
    \ /
    \ /
    \ /
    \ /
    O
    Logic

    It looks that I can't show this model here


    I made this because of some things that people (Fs) said to me..But it could be that they were just frustrated with me.

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    I'd say the second one. But I think it's comparing apples to oranges. Logic just describes and structures things, and the emotions come into play after that point to generate a reaction. They shouldn't be placed side-by-side as if they had similar functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I'd say the second one. But I think it's comparing apples to oranges. Logic just describes and structures things, and the emotions come into play after that point to generate a reaction. They shouldn't be placed side-by-side as if they had similar functions.
    The point is to check do peope see something that worths or do they see apples and oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    The point is to check do peope see something that worths or do they see apples and oranges.
    Well, the reason I chose the second one is this:

    I think that as far as the conscious mind is concerned... logic first structures a situation, tells us what it is, etc. This is the first step. Then, we react to our picture of the situation, which tells us what it means to us... but it's not as simple as "good" and "bad" emotions. Emotions have far more qualities to them than just being good or bad.

    The second model is closest to how I see this because logic is placed at an angle to the emotions... as if to say the emotional evaluation happens after the logical and sensory processing of the events. In other words, I agree that logic is a perspective that doesn't have to be based on emotions, but I don't agree that emotions can simply be grouped into something as simple as "good" and "bad."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Well, the reason I chose the second one is this:

    I think that as far as the conscious mind is concerned... logic first structures a situation, tells us what it is, etc. This is the first step. Then, we react to our picture of the situation, which tells us what it means to us... but it's not as simple as "good" and "bad" emotions. Emotions have far more qualities to them than just being good or bad.

    The second model is closest to how I see this because logic is placed at an angle to the emotions... as if to say the emotional evaluation happens after the logical and sensory processing of the events.
    I agree with this reasoning.
    -end of thread-

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    Logic doesn't exist, at least not objectively. Everything is ultimately based on emotional reactions to situations - what is called logic is really an emotional response to a situation, at least from what I can tell. No human can ever cut emotions out of any decision they make, but logic is easily removed.
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    People can pretend to be logical though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    People can pretend to be logical though.
    Tis naught but a facade, I tell ye!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    People can pretend to be logical though.
    That is true but there is a difference between what a person is telling and what is actual position. The first one is more or less irrelevant.

    This are not actually my ideas I just place them is a framework and now I am trying to see what will come out from this.

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    I don't really see the point of separating emotions into "good" and "bad" in the first place.
    I don't wanna!

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