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    Default Why are introverts...

    ...so underrepresented in popular media? I have my own (half-baked) ideas, but I'm curious to see what others think.
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    Because the popular media appeals to popular tastes and extroverts are popular.

    Also - extroverts simply present themselves better.

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    How do you know that they are? Some Introverts can behave in a more Extraverted manner.

    Also, popular media may be more commonly used by them, because Introverts usually seek stimulation elsewhere.

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    I'm not sure that they are underrepresented. If you take into consideration that introverts are a vast minority. (only 20 to 25% of the US population).

    If so, I'd agree with Ferrus.

    But also, what are you including in "popular media"?

    Because there are a whole lot of novelists that are introverts.

    And I would add, that in movies, I have seen the introverted character take on a much more positive and valued role. In movies past, the introvert was rather put down and looked down upon. Not so, anymore. That tells me that introverts have gotten some kind of influence in the movie industry. It's beginning to be seen and shown as a positive thing in movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesia View Post
    Because there are a whole lot of novelists that are introverts.
    Because novels are a media which require far less extroverted attitude, indeed reading is a rather introverted activity in itself. There are a fair few extroverted print journalists too.
    Not so, anymore.
    There are a wide enough selection of films now to cater for many tastes, but in an average SJ/SP imbecile flick the introvert will always be the weird or evil one.

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    I always thought the media portrayed the Intuitive as the evil megalomaniac or eccentric crackpot while the hero was an SP or SJ upholding the law. This is especially true of movies in the '70s and '80s. In many of the '80s cop movies, it was often an SJ playing the hero and an SP or NT playing the bad guy. The NF was probably the hero woman.

    In a traditional action movie, it's usually an SP trying to foil the NT's evil plans -- a la James Bond -- although the SP hero character is portrayed as the more one-dimensional of the two. In recent times, though, there's a trend of an NF hero pitted against an NT villain, like Spider-Man. And in Tim Burton's and Christopher Nolan's Batman movies, it's an NT against an NT (although Batman is somewhat of a psychopath himself).

    But I think the Intuitive will be portrayed as the loony, misunderstood, or stupid character, where the Sensor will be portrayed as the one everybody likes. Extraversion and Introversion do not necessarily have different ways of thinking, and it's often hard to tell who's Extraverted or Introverted. But Sensors and Intuitives do have different ways of thinking -- and since society has a natural bias toward Sensors,

    Introverts may not necessarily think of themselves as outsiders and may not even have trouble fitting in with other people, especially when a Sensing preference reinforces it. Intuitives, on the other hand, are lost at sea, since their interests and ways of thinking tend to be more esoteric or less common than the norms. Intuitives, being in worlds of their own most of the time, are less aware of what's appropriate in the here-and-now. And so they're looked down upon much of the time.

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    I thought the E/I divide was 50/50...
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    Pop media often shows the ideal: young, healthy, good-looking, financially secure. They probably see the outgoing extrovert as part of that ideal. I've heard and read many introverts saying they would like to be more extraverted. I can't say I've ever seen the reverse.

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    I thought the E/I divide was 50/50...
    IIRC, Keirsey estimated the splits at around 50/50 for N/F and J/P and 75/25 for E/I and S/N.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    I thought the E/I divide was 50/50...
    Seems that way to me.
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    Sitcom scenario: the three extroverts are chatting away in the living room about their day. The camera cuts briefly to the introverted friend reading quietly in his room but quickly returns to the extroverts' bantering before the audience gets bored.

    Most popular media is driven by character interactions - kinda tough for introverts to drive the plot in that case. Example two - the group of friends has just received some bad news. The extroverts display their shock & dismay while the introvert stands there stonefaced, waiting until later to process his take on the situation. Just doesn't make for good entertainment!

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