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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    Fear is why I don't kill. Seriously if I could get away with it I might kill some people I know.
    i didn't say fear was never the reason, i said it's not the reason.
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    A multiplicity of reasons, certainly.

    I just can't identify with many of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    i didn't say fear was never the reason, i said it's not the reason.
    oh, really? *goes back and reads* sorry I can't read.
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    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Really?
    What was he like?
    And what sort of temperament could help a guy deal day-in and day-out with this sort of person?

    I always thought Kemper was fascinating, since he was so darn smart and had so much self-awareness, compared to some psychopaths. Funny that he turned himself in once he had killed his mother, realizing that was really all he had wanted to do the whole time.

    (Of course, that sort of introspective capability and intelligence makes him sort of frightening too. Aside from him being 6'6".)
    Just as you have described Kemper here, is the way this man characterized him. The doctor must have had a lot of letters from sensation seekers. The main point that he invariably returned to, over and over, was that "prisoners are just like you and me" in so many ways. "Just living in different circumstances" etc. He insisted on snail mail. And his letters were typically very short. He published his POB address and interests in a lot of places. I think he had a lot of correspondence, and tended to take a bit of a cookie cutter approach to replying to much of it.

    Actually I learned much more about Charlie from a book Charlie co-wrote, with the help of a ghost writer/interviewer guy, where he tells his side of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuranes View Post
    ...Actually I learned much more about Charlie from a book Charlie co-wrote, with the help of a ghost writer/interviewer guy, where he tells his side of the story.
    That's probably the one I have. (I forget the title.)
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    I don't really have much to add to the discussion at this point, but yeah, I've always been fascinated by serial killers and true crime stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Why does everyone assume that serial killers are raised in dysfunctional homes? Surely, it must be possible that some people just aren't afraid to use their latent killer instinct.
    I'm "assuming" this is a serious question, Uber. Hee. Assumptions=dangerous ground but I feel pretty solid with this one.

    Virginia Satir posits that 97 percent of us come from dysfunctional homes so it's a safe bet!

    Or, wait a minute! Maybe they are the other three percent?

    Seriously, haven't you noticed in reading the biographies that nearly all of them have had horrendous childhoods? Or some form of head injury or a genetic pattern of social dysfunction?
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    People with no conscience intrigue the shit out of me. Mainly because I'm the opposite; I think I envy them in a way.

    Except I don't envy the fact that most of them developed that way in response to horrible childhood conditions...

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    Macdonald triad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    There's definitely a component of childhood trauma or neglect in there, but it's difficult to argue that they are the only factors. There are plenty of kids who would never become killers, no matter how much trauma or neglect they suffer. It seems like there has to be an inborn tendency that can be activated by circumstances.
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    Thank god I never set on fire anything!

    Doesn't everyone bedwet when little, though?
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