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  • Yes; and I covet it.

    11 14.47%
  • Yes; however, I will serve wherever I am needed.

    20 26.32%
  • No; but occasionally someone needs to step forward.

    40 52.63%
  • No; and if you ask me to lead, I will decline.

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    I prefer to lead as a mentor, to inspire and bring out the best in people. I don't really believe in democracy or coming to a consensus, but what I will do is first gather everyone's input and then make a decision that benefits the whole group without taking it to a vote. That's really only if a central decision needs to be made too. I'd rather stand back and give people confidence and only step in to help someone compensate for a natural deficiency.

    I don't mind following someone else's leadership if they know what they are doing. Few people do though and it can be frustrating.
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    I'm not a very good long-term leader. I have a difficult time criticizing people. I don't have a problem motivating.
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    Of course! I'm an enn8! Delegating tasks and working together is fun! I never have to announce my position, I just naturally adopt it. People just assume that I'm going to take it, or nothing happens. After a while of nothing happening, they will eventually push me to the pedestal, and then things will get going.
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    I don't naturally seek out leadership roles, I tend to just work with people as equals, perhaps giving out information if some people happen to not know something at the moment.

    The situation where I tend to end up leading are either in a group of people where I am considered the smartest, so end up expected to lead, or situations where people aren't organizing themselves. In the first case, it's pretty neat to be considered "the leader", the second case is often not a lot of fun since cases where I end up trying to get things organized and working well get less accomplished than cases where people know what to do and can organize themselves. (I do seem to provide some improvements, but these are often short term situations, without enough time to bring people up to a level where they can figure things out on their own.)

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    Hate it. Avoid it. I consider myself a very gifted follower. Somebody's gotta do it.
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    Leading human beings is so much cat-herding, but until I acquire an army of androids to carry out tasks it can't be avoided.

    In stark contrast to Jennifer, while I wouldn't say that I enjoy leadership in and of itself, nothing brings me greater tingly glee then those times when I correctly assessed that Mr. X would be the kind of person to react to situation Y in Mr. X fashion and Mr. Y would be the sort of person to react to situation Y in a Mr. Y fashion, and that by seeing to it that they wind up in situation Y objective Z can be achieved.
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    I really don't enjoy being in a position of leadership, but I do it because I have to right now. I definitely prefer a more egalitarian, everyone-knows-what-their-job-is-and-simply-does-it kind of workplace, but alas, I am not there.

    Unfortunately, I have a tendancy to assume that, once a task has been spelled out and a deadline set, that people will simply do it. I am, I've come to find, something of a leadership idiot for thinking this. And I freely admit that my intense dislike of confrontation or discord of any kind makes supervising most people very difficult for me.

    In the past, I have been much more comfortable in the advisor to the leader role, much like Jennifer said. I'm trying to find a way to get back into such a role...

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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    Leadership styles? A very good idea. This page caught my eye a couple of weeks ago.
    Thank God a thinktank out there can recite and confirm my thought process (not that I'm trying to break my arm patting myself on the back, thinking like Eisenhower and his "industrial complex speech).

    The only problem is, I need constructive criticism when it comes to learning how to deal with others when they don't conform to my expectations. :steam: I tend to dismiss those who do not work or think like I do. At home, I have no close friends and need to decompress from my husband; is this normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex View Post
    The only problem is, I need constructive criticism when it comes to learning how to deal with others when they don't conform to my expectations. :steam: I tend to dismiss those who do not work or think like I do. At home, I have no close friends and need to decompress from my husband; is this normal?
    It's not abnormal, in the sense that while not part of what soceity considers a 'norm', it's not really a disorder either.

    However, as you say, it is destructive. I'd recommend, and I'd recommend this for any INTJ in a leadership position that believes they have these kinds of issues, that you write down a list of your core advantages - why are you a leader? For each advantage you write down, write down the opposing disadvantage. The longer it takes you to come up with one, the more important it is to think about it seriously, maybe even try to come up with more than one. For each disadvantage, name costs - strategic costs, personal costs... but find the costs that you have inflicted on yourself.

    In the case of not being able to relate to people, write out why other people don't have these costs... look at it from the POV of how other people can balance out your own style, your own flaws. For personal relationships, write down how you inflict costs on your spouse - it always helps if both sides are doing this in the couple cases. Change it for friends, work... anything.

    The mistake that INTJs seem to have is fighting only in the present and forward - not looking at the big picture. Yes, you might be able to solve this problem, get it done on time... but there are costs to your methodologies. Balance can only be achieved when you see your own shortfalls and identify the solutions in other people.

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    Wow, that is very helpful and I will truly consider doing this.

    I think the person who suffers the most is obviously my husband, the poor guy. I just gave him the MB test and he's an ISFP. Bad for compatibility which sometimes makes me wonder if I know I need him to counter my preferences.

    I seem to be ok with the strategic picture; perhaps this comes from my leadership training and understanding the importance of the big picture...but at home, you're probably right. I'm not sure I understand the big picture, especially because I'm second generation; mom's Japanese and dad's English, leaving me in the US all by my lonesome (with one brother and an English aunty.)

    Thanks, pt.

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