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    Question Truth or compassion?

    Truth or compassion?


    What are you more likely to say to other person if those two are opposite of each other in some situation?
    What do you want to hear from others in a hard times?


    I know that question is very general, so people can put it in a context they feel it is right for them, but idea is not to talk just about touchy/feely things here. The idea is to talk about differences of truth/feels good in general.


    I don't have any big dilemmas I am just curious since I am totally on the "truth side" of the spectrum.(and people have problem with it)

    Probably T/F will play a role in this thrad.

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    When offering sympathy, I prefer an inclusive approach.

    For me, these qualities are abstract interchangeables. Neither is harmonious unto itself. Without compassion, we risk rendering our target obstinate. Without truth, our party could mistake our warmth as misguided encumbrance.

    What this generally means is that I'll work to cobble forth a best-fitting expression of what I consider to be a truthful rendition of the event, while gently knitting my vernacular as a means to weaken the impact of the adverse news.

    I find this marriage makes delivery less painful for both of us.

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    i try to offer compassionate non judgmental truth if i can...if i'm trying not to hurt someones feelings...otherwise just straight up blunt cuz you need to hear it truth.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
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    Depends on your goal.

    Maybe "compassion" is the wrong word, as I often find it more compassionate to be bluntly truthful over long-term situations. I can't honestly say this "finding" isn't based on its extreme convenience for me. I'd much rather have a huge blow-out in the present and move on rather than consider and reconsider what to say and not to say and what to feel bad about and not feel bad about throughout the future.

    It's not really a dichotomy. Truth is truth. But not saying anything isn't lying. Compassion can be truth. It can be untruth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colors View Post
    Depends on your goal.


    It's not really a dichotomy. Truth is truth. But not saying anything isn't lying. Compassion can be truth. It can be untruth.
    1.Exactly

    2.I was thinking about puting that in the OP but that would be too limiting for the thread.




    I have repaired OP in grammatical sense so now it probably make more sense

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    Truth is compassion.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    My natural inclination is to tell someone the truth/or exactly what's on my mind.

    But I also know the virtues of compassion. If I know what the truth is or what's on my mind will be taken in a very negative way, I will try to deliver it in a very palatable and comfortable way sometimes... because I'm not a sociopath.

    And this method sometimes works. You'd be surprised about what you can get away with saying if you say it in the right way.

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    As the family truth-speaker I have often been in the unfortunate spot of the messenger facing a beheading.

    But I can't stop speaking my truth!

    "Truth is compassion." says Blue. Natural truth is "red in tooth and claw." Human truth is tentative and hopeful.
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    You'd be surprised about what you can get away with saying if you say it in the right way.
    No, I won't be since I know for the trick. It is just that my default state is not that I am like that. But with time I have managed to get more skill in this.

    Timing is everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    My natural inclination is to tell someone the truth/or exactly what's on my mind.

    But I also know the virtues of compassion. If I know what the truth is or what's on my mind will be taken in a very negative way, I will try to deliver it in a very palatable and comfortable way sometimes... because I'm not a sociopath.

    And this method sometimes works. You'd be surprised about what you can get away with saying if you say it in the right way.
    so true...it really is all in how you say it.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
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