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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Compassion is a blunt instrument. The lovely thing about it is that it usually gives expected results -- the worst is that you don't know how or why.

    Truth is a precision tool. Most of the times, it does nothing. It's impossible to define and people refuse to hear it. So, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't even exist.

    Now, when it comes to giving one's honest opinion, that's an entirely different matter.
    You still haven't defined compassion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    You still haven't defined compassion.
    Anything that's given with the intent to help a person.

    Even the 'slaps in the face' that most consider 'truth' are more accurately called compassion, because it's still help. Tough love is still love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Anything that's given with the intent to help a person.

    Even the 'slaps in the face' that most consider 'truth' are more accurately called compassion, because it's still help. Tough love is still love.
    Then where is the dichotomy?

    I said "Truth is compassion" about 4 pages back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Then where is the dichotomy?

    I said "Truth is compassion" about 4 pages back.
    Truth is something that can't be pried out. Truth is neutral and indifferent, already known but can't be expressed. So it's not truth that is compassion. Truth is simply not there, and has no reason to be involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Truth is something that can't be pried out. Truth is neutral and indifferent, already known but can't be expressed. So it's not truth that is compassion. Truth is simply not there, and has no reason to be involved.
    wha?

    Truth can't be expressed?
    What are you talking about?

    Provide a concrete example of what you mean, pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Truth is compassion.
    About damn time someone besides me gets it.
    I N V I C T U S

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    wha?

    Truth can't be expressed?
    What are you talking about?

    Provide a concrete example of what you mean, pls.
    I just don't see it. Maybe someone else can see this bright and shiny truth, but I can't.

    All I see is too many opinions projected on each other. And it all gets muddled and impossible. I'd prefer to just go with what seems to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I just don't see it. Maybe someone else can see this bright and shiny truth, but I can't.

    All I see is too many opinions projected on each other. And it all gets muddled and impossible. I'd prefer to just go with what seems to work.
    A pragmatist.

    So you're saying truth doesn't exist?

    Whoa! This conversation just got way existential and shit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    A pragmatist.

    So you're saying truth doesn't exist?

    Whoa! This conversation just got way existential and shit!
    Yeah.

    See, the way I figure is that if everything's all existential and shit, the best thing to do is just go with your sense of pragmatism and try your hardest not to get thrown into a crisis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    All I see is too many opinions projected on each other. And it all gets muddled and impossible. I'd prefer to just go with what seems to work.
    Yeah... I think that's pretty much what I end up doing in the end. I try to see truth in more significant contexts, but it always turns out not to be there even when I think I see it.

    I think there might be truth, but it doesn't apply to or affect most of the things people try to use it to justify. It mostly only works for very simple things. Like the structure of mechanical devices or math, and descriptions of objects.

    Truth is only adequate for expressing the structure of semi-tangible things.

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