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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Both sides are you.

    The only question is which is more developed.


    This is why I have long ago asked you about your S/N ratio. This works for other letters as well. The more balanced you are,the more diverse are you. What in the end leads to your situation.
    Are you implying that a fully "balanced" person is XXXX (smack in the middle of all preferences)?

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    The average SJ tends to doubt the validity of abstract constructs.

    I've partaken in lengthy and detailed analysis of the differences in Perception between INTPs and ISTJs, since long before I understood type systems. The ISTJ, however much effort is applied, is always at a distance from the nature of the construct, by definition, because of the preference for Sensing. Trust of others' interpretations is naturally required for acceptance of the constructs, and the consequent understanding is fact (Or supposed fact) based. It comes from without.

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    ^^^ wow...that makes so much sense...interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    The average SJ tends to doubt the validity of abstract constructs.
    I agree.

    Abstractions simply aren't real to them until they have a concrete interface. I have to remember this when I enter conversations with S-style people.

    (Just look at national commentary on the recent presidential election to see this at work, especially in regards to Obama's abstracted "message of hope.")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    A little off-topic:
    One reason is because when I quote more than one person in a post, I have to edit. The other option would be to "double post"--me posting twice in a row, which wastes space, and is not considered good forum style (it is discouraged by the mods, I think).
    multi-quote button, next to quote button.

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    Jack, thanks for your little info session. Could you relate it to my question (which I admit is kind of vague)? Are you talking about my approach to MBTI in general? I'd like to focus more on how I often find myself unsure about my own "real" cognitive/personality preferences. And it doesn't mean that I'm balanced--I think it feels either one side or the other, but not usually in the middle.
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    I was just thinking about this today in regards to my type. I think I'm a rather rough ENFP and wondering why I'm not as nice.

    Can the test results be affected by who you were around that day?

    I typically read more about mbti when around my family (long story, not good) and now I think maybe ENFP is what I adapt to around them as intuition is highly valued by my father and feeling my stepmother. It was pretty much pounded into me as a kid.

    So far the only thing I know is that I'm definitely E and P. So I started reading all of the EP descriptions and ESTP hits me dead on ***naturally*** not forced.

    But I'm still pretty split between n/s and t/f. I think I can look like any of the EP's and it's frustrating to me that I can't just be me all the time. Its like I have to pick and choose depending on who I am with. Ugh.
    "My mom told me there was a weirdo on every bus, but I never could find him." Emo Phillips

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    My favorite anecdote was about my FIL, a mechanical engineer who just about anyone with ANY degree of MBTI sense... even a novice... would have immediately read as an ISTJ. He could quite literally be the photograph they'd post in the MBTI handbook as an example for that type.

    But in the self-test he took at work, he rated himself as ENFJ.
    (He later retook it, with guidance from the counselor, and was deemed ISTJ.)

    Go figure.
    It sounds like the guidance counselor's mere purpose was just to formally put him in his proper stereotype.

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