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    Default 9w1: ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ) Tri-loop theory.

    I decided to go deeper into the structure of my one to one correlation and have completed one of twelve examples for the twelve Sub-Types at Point:9


    Example: 9w1 Sx/Sp , F-N,S,T , Fi-Ne,Se,Te , Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ,

    This example hits the First shock with out successfully proceed to the second shock. Probiotic actions flux between the actions of the three dynamics ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ). These dynamics combined add to the difficulty of understanding and viewing the one to one correlation between the two components 9w1 and INFP witch has more than one four letter order in its four letter order as a combination.

    Fi = 9 = Preferred function for the 9w1.
    Te = w1 = 1w2 Preferred function Te.
    Fe = w8 = 8w9 Preferred function Fe.
    Ni = 6w5's = Point of Stress 6w5's Preferred function = Ni.
    Te = 9w1's fourth/ Lest preferred function fourth function = Te.
    Si = 3w2's preferred function Si.

    Note six actions.

    I think for the 9w1 Sx/Sp/So the order of the six variant heads is:

    Fi = Sx/Sp
    Te = Sp/So
    Fe = Sx/So
    Ni = So/Sx
    Te = Sp/Sx
    Si = So/Sp



    In my model the point of integration is also the point of neurosis for the type, this example is for the 9w1 Sx/Sp who's Point of Integration/Neurosis is at Point:3 , 3w2. In the example the neurotic energy will be Fi-Si the Fi comes from the first preference of the 9 energy in the 9w1 So/Sp and the Si comes from the first preference from the 3w2's first function.
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    Hi, I am an ISFP 9w1, 4w5, 6w5 SX/SP. Seems to be accurate for me at least.
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    Default 9w1: ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ) Tri-loop theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghostlovescore View Post
    Hi, I am an ISFP 9w1, 4w5, 6w5 SX/SP. Seems to be accurate for me at least.
    That's interesting.

    You say; "Seems to be accurate for me at least."

    I'm not really into challenging people and asserting that they have misread there actual cognitive activity, but if you are open to my understanding as to why 9's score highly as ISFP's I am happy to shear with you the structure that I believe makes it so that many 9's believe them selves to be and do score as ISFP's.

    It's slightly complex but if you are interested I will explain it for you, and also shear a structure that dose work in unison with this dynamic that is closer to the workings of the sleeping mind and its trance. In other words I will show to you the structure of the mind as it operates while lucid dreaming and operating within the dream state.

    But if you are not really interested that's cool with me because I am kinda wanting to save that structure for when the enneagram institute discussion boards reopens in the near future.

    I count six structures that work in unison and if tritype and the six instinctual variant heads and trifix are added then there are nine structures at work as I understand the living enneagram to operate.
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    Sure, I'm interested

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    Default 9w1: ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ) Tri-loop theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghostlovescore View Post
    Sure, I'm interested
    Ok, it's 3am hear in Australia and I am just about to go to sleep so I will have a think about how to explain my understandings and get back to you with a reply tomorrow.

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    Default 9w1: ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ) Tri-loop theory.

    Hi ghostlovescore. I have thought about it this morning and I have decided to not post the patterns and to save them for my original plan. To post the patterns on the enneagram institute discussion boards when they reopen in the near future.


    But to help you out the Si is the second preference in both of these components. So ISFP followers as a measurement. But there is more to it but I don't wish to reveal the patten, to explain properly, would require revealing the bigger pattern.

    Te = w1 = 1w2 Preferred function Te. Si is the second preference.
    Fe = w8 = 8w9 Preferred function Fe. Si is the second preference.

    So as a way of speaking, time and space witch are a unison would relate to the activity function of Te & Fe inline with - acting with, the second function "N" of the INFP ordering at Point:9.

    Te & Fe become Si & Si as an action of utilising second function over first function, and the balance of three becomes ether or rudely to the shape of:

    Te ________ Fe


    _____ Ne


    Si _________ Si


    _____ Fi


    _____ Si



    Te ________ Fe





    So basically Ne the second function becomes Si and there fore Si becomes the new, direct cognition function, and Te & Fe remain temporal (Time) and spectral (Spacial) related time and space are a unity function and the third implicate function Direct cognition swops from Ne to Si and Fi remains the "OBSERVER".


    So it looks like this.



    _________ Ne




    Fi ________________ Ti






    To




    __________ Si





    Te ________________ Fe



    So that is a representation of one one function to ("tent in context") that is one piece of content with in the context of the pattern. If you can follow the logic of it as I present it.



    ______________ Fi
    ____ Si, Fe ___ ne ___ Te,Si


    ______________ Fi

    _______Te ____ Si ____ Fe







    __________ - The Observer


    ___________ Direct cognition
    _________________( Si )


    Space (Te) ________________ (Fe) Time


    To understand this map requires utilising your own observer and the visceral of you intelligence to sense the values explained.
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    No offense but WTF is this. Also, what's up with Fe for 8 and Si for 3?

    I don't get it.
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    Default 9w1: ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ) Tri-loop theory.

    It is about the law of three with an action between three parts within an action you FW.

    There are within this action two multiplicities (Te & Fe) and The Observer observed via (Fi & Ne).

    Three lines of force ( Te , Ne , Fe ) a shift takes place directed via a command from The Observer (Fi) three lines of force ( Si , Fi , Si ) and what change takes place is a shift in the order ( Te , Si , Fe ) Fi remained The Observer and the observed though action has a new perspective lens Ne becomes Se hence INFP action Becomes ISFP action but 9w1 always remains at its base line measurement INFP.


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    three lines of force ( Si , Fi , Si ).

    The Fi comes from Point:9 the 9w1, INFP.

    One Si comes from the second function of the Point:1 1w2 ESTJ Second preferred function Si.

    The second Si comes from the second function of the Point:8 8w9 ESFJ Second preferred function Si.

    Note

    change takes place is a shift in the order ( Te , Si , Fe )

    Te comes from Point:1 1w2 ESTJ preferred function Te.

    Fe comes from Point:8 8w9 ESFJ Second preferred function Fe.

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    Default 9w1: ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ) Tri-loop theory.

    The important understanding to start with is that this set of actions is a modality a modality of a action within one of nine sets of actions for each of the eighteen enneagram subtypes.

    The action is a modality. For example it maybe an active line of force within the tritype action for the individual or it maybe not be most likely it will not be because the tritype action is a concentrated modality action within its own action as a form of the law of three within action, three lines of force.

    I find or believe the law of three works in many ways within the operating mind, even in the sleeping mind the lucid thinking mind and the mind in its trance like state.

    It is not true that the law of three is only associated with intuitions of a spiritual order generated via sensing thinking and feeling all at once, the truth is the law of three is at work in may ways in the general of our direct cognition and sub conches activity. If it was not l believe cognition and freedom of thought would not be posable.

    The path to Higher Mind requires the action of making the Law Of Three happen within via sensing thinking and feeling at once to manifest intuition of a spiritual order, but that is just one form a higher specific form of making the law of three happen within. The fact is the law of three is happening within cognition constantly on May forms in May ways constantly so as we have flux within cognition.


    With out the Law Of Three constantly working within cognition the flux of minds thinking the self would probity be stuck, and alive but stuck in a neutral most likely in a state were the only cognitive action likely would be ( S&N and T&F ) without any other of the eight cognitive actions.

    This state or disease (adrenoleukodystrophy) reminds me of the movie lorenzo's oil.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo%27s_Oil


    The medical state those people are in may provide and like medical states may provide scientific clues to the Nero chemical base of the function ( S&N and T&F ) within mind and hint also to the Nuro chemical structures of the eight cognitive functions.

    There must be an electromagnetic and neurochemistry connection to the eight cognitive functions and the two ambidextrous functions ( S&N and T&F ).

    My thinking is between ( space - time and gravity ) there is or maybe a link to ( S&N and T&F and Direct Cognition ). As there is a left and right in nature and a Presence or conches location.

    The trick for me is to understand the role of ( S&N and T&F ) in the transformation process between parts of actions within a transformation, transformation process or proses that constantly occur within processes of the minds flux.

    Could the relationship be as simple as a two lane circuit between the Hart and the Brain, wherein one end maybe related to input out put and at the other end there is also an input out put function. Two Functions four parts S&N and F&T.

    If I was to take an intuitive guess I would place F&T with Brain and S&N with Hart.

    But how to link all actions together the Eight Cognitive Functions and the two ambidextrous functions, ( S&N and T&F ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitchenFly View Post
    I decided to go deeper into the structure of my one to one correlation and have completed one of twelve examples for the twelve Sub-Types at Point:9


    Example: 9w1 Sx/Sp , F-N,S,T , Fi-Ne,Se,Te , Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ,

    This example hits the First shock with out successfully proceed to the second shock. Probiotic actions flux between the actions of the three dynamics ( Fi-Ni , Te-Fe , Te-Si ). These dynamics combined add to the difficulty of understanding and viewing the one to one correlation between the two components 9w1 and INFP witch has more than one four letter order in its four letter order as a combination.

    Fi = 9 = Preferred function for the 9w1.
    Te = w1 = 1w2 Preferred function Te.
    Fe = w8 = 8w9 Preferred function Fe.
    Ni = 6w5's = Point of Stress 6w5's Preferred function = Ni.
    Te = 9w1's fourth/ Lest preferred function fourth function = Te.
    Si = 3w2's preferred function Si.

    Note six actions.

    I think for the 9w1 Sx/Sp/So the order of the six variant heads is:

    Fi = Sx/Sp
    Te = Sp/So
    Fe = Sx/So
    Ni = So/Sx
    Te = Sp/Sx
    Si = So/Sp



    In my model the point of integration is also the point of neurosis for the type, this example is for the 9w1 Sx/Sp who's Point of Integration/Neurosis is at Point:3 , 3w2. In the example the neurotic energy will be Fi-Si the Fi comes from the first preference of the 9 energy in the 9w1 So/Sp and the Si comes from the first preference from the 3w2's first function.
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