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[Type 4] Core Beliefs of 4s According to Beatrice Chestnut

Elfboy

Certified Sausage Smoker
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ENFP
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5w4
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sx/sp
- "I am lacking some essential qualities of goodness, and so I will inevitably be rejected and abandoned by others."
- "Since I lost the love of someone I loved and needed in the past it must mean there's something fundamentally wrong with me."
- "Others have what I want, but I can't get it because there's something wrong with me."
- "What I want eludes me, and what I can have seems somehow boring or lacking something essential. What is here and how is mundane and boring; what I desire most is ideal and at a distance."
- "If someone does love me or want to be with me, there must be something wrong with them."
- "My intensity makes me special."
- "What I want most is love, but I won't be able to what I want because (experience has proven) I am not lovable."
- "I lack some basic attributes that wold allow others to really love me. But if I could find the ideal person who realizes how special I am, then maybe I could really experience what I long for."
- "I'm special, but others don't recognize it."
- "No one understands me. I am destined to be misunderstood."
- "I will never be able to fit in because I'm unique (or special or deficient). I feel as if I don't belong.
- "I expect that eventually, most people will abandon me."
 

SpankyMcFly

Level 8 Propaganda Bot
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INFJ
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461
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so/sx
I want to say ego came first and the enneagram type developed as a consequence of the ego in order to feed it...
 

OrangeAppled

Sugar Hiccup
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MBTI Type
INFP
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4w5
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sp/sx
- "I am lacking some essential qualities of goodness, and so I will inevitably be rejected and abandoned by others."
- "Since I lost the love of someone I loved and needed in the past it must mean there's something fundamentally wrong with me."
- "Others have what I want, but I can't get it because there's something wrong with me."
- "What I want eludes me, and what I can have seems somehow boring or lacking something essential. What is here and how is mundane and boring; what I desire most is ideal and at a distance."
- "If someone does love me or want to be with me, there must be something wrong with them."
- "My intensity makes me special."
- "What I want most is love, but I won't be able to what I want because (experience has proven) I am not lovable."
- "I lack some basic attributes that wold allow others to really love me. But if I could find the ideal person who realizes how special I am, then maybe I could really experience what I long for."
- "I'm special, but others don't recognize it."
- "No one understands me. I am destined to be misunderstood."
- "I will never be able to fit in because I'm unique (or special
or deficient). I feel as if I don't belong.
- "I expect that eventually, most people will abandon me."

Yeah most of this works for me.
The bolded is off.... I don't think I'm special and that others don't recognize it. Actually, I can feel frustrated that others will fail to relate to me. I naively continue to think that people will "get" it and when they don't, I am disheartened. I never expect misunderstanding, no matter how much it occurs.
I don't feel I can fit in, true, but it's not because I think I am special. Sometimes I think I'm deficient - well, often. But my perspective is also that others are willing to repress themselves to fit some mold, and perhaps they are happy that way. But I cannot stomach that or be happy that way. Others are special too, but they'll betray themselves for security. I suppose I may feel some deficiency like selfishness or stubbornness or inability to be content the way others are, and this is what keeps me from conforming as needed to fit in.

I don't think most people will abandon me, but I do think I wont ever be important enough for most of them to remember me or to make me a priority or to highly value me as a friend. I don't expect betrayal or deliberate abandonment, it's more like being forgotten.
 

hjgbujhghg

I am
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INFP
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4w3
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sx/so
What I want most is not love, at least I've never felt this way and that's why I can't relate to these core beliefs... maybe I am not a 4 after all :shrug:
 

senza tema

nunc rosa cras fex
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sx/sp
I don't think most people will abandon me, but I do think I wont ever be important enough for most of them to remember me or to make me a priority or to highly value me as a friend. I don't expect betrayal or deliberate abandonment, it's more like being forgotten.

Yes, yes, yes. This, so much.
 

thoughtlost

Honeyed Water
Joined
May 20, 2013
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745
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N/A
Yeah most of this works for me.
The bolded is off.... I don't think I'm special and that others don't recognize it. Actually, I can feel frustrated that others will fail to relate to me. I naively continue to think that people will "get" it and when they don't, I am disheartened. I never expect misunderstanding, no matter how much it occurs.
I don't feel I can fit in, true, but it's not because I think I am special. Sometimes I think I'm deficient - well, often. But my perspective is also that others are willing to repress themselves to fit some mold, and perhaps they are happy that way. But I cannot stomach that or be happy that way. Others are special too, but they'll betray themselves for security. I suppose I may feel some deficiency like selfishness or stubbornness or inability to be content the way others are, and this is what keeps me from conforming as needed to fit in.

I don't think most people will abandon me, but I do think I wont ever be important enough for most of them to remember me or to make me a priority or to highly value me as a friend. I don't expect betrayal or deliberate abandonment, it's more like being forgotten.

I am not even a 4, yet I relate this 1000000000% lol xDDD
 
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