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    I wonder if there are any type tens on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    @Azure Flame I have considered if there was a missing number before. Still haven't concluded anything. But I would imagine it would be a fully enlightened person as you said. Not necessarily attached to any religion though.4
    I think a fully enlightened person would probably embody all beliefs and none at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    For sure. I'm sure there are examples for every type. I don't think this discussion works as well with MBTI types. Sorry, let's take it back to the enneagram.

    There are so-called enlightened yogis in India who will display an intense level of balance rarely seen in others. You know, being in tune with both the physical and spiritual world and self. I could see that as the basic 10 type. They would simultaneously have the ability to influence anyone to do or give them anything, yet they would be so self-fulfilled that they wouldn't need to do this to begin with. I'm guessing people like Christ or Buddha might be such a super type--that's basically what a ten would be--a superhero, except probably minus all of the physical superpowers (although Jesus kinda did have those as well).
    The idea that jesus was "just another whole person" is a statement emanating from the mouth of every person who's never read the bible for more than a couple days and are purpetuated by 'omg I'm the universe' pseudo intellectuals like alan watts.

    Like most intuives, you can look at anything from whatever perspective you want. If you look at the bible as a source of fantasy, then that's all you're going to see. If you look at it as a book of truth, then the same applies. If you want to convince yourself that the god of the bible was in fact an evil god, then all you have to do is open the book of genisis and turn several pages and wham. God is killing people... which to any self righteous person is considered evil, especially if taken out of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    The idea that jesus was "just another whole person" is a statement emanating from the mouth of every person who's never read the bible for more than a couple days and are purpetuated by 'omg I'm the universe' pseudo intellectuals like alan watts.

    Like most intuives, you can look at anything from whatever perspective you want. If you look at the bible as a source of fantasy, then that's all you're going to see. If you look at it as a book of truth, then the same applies. If you want to convince yourself that the god of the bible was in fact an evil god, then all you have to do is open the book of genisis and turn several pages and wham. God is killing people... which to any self righteous person is considered evil, especially if taken out of context.
    I ain't no intuitive.

    I never said I thought he was a whole man. I wasn't there, so I can't really say what he was or wasn't.

    I look at the bible as a collection of allegorical morality plays, historical records, poetry, and proverbs. Is it truth?

    I read a lot of Alan Watts in my teens. My ENFP sister turned me onto that

    Problem with Watts, is that, while he makes a lot of good points, he was essentially a privileged academic, so when he preaches about how you should just quit your job and follow your heart or your bliss or some other hippie bullshit, it's really hard to take him seriously.
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    Ever watch the movie predator, and when you go to tell your friends about how badass arnold swarzennegar and predator were, they say something like, "Oh yeah I saw that movie, that's the one where will ferrel dressed up in an elf costume!"

    That is how I feel about pretty much everyone who says they understand the bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    Ever watch the movie predator, and when you go to tell your friends about how badass arnold swarzennegar and predator were, they say something like, "Oh yeah I saw that movie, that's the one where will ferrel dressed up in an elf costume!"

    That is how I feel about pretty much everyone who says they understand the bible.
    I've yet to hear someone reference Will Ferrell in Predator. They should put him in the next Predator movie just to die.
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    One of the defining qualities of the Enneagram types is that their fears stem from basic existential issues deeply rooted in the human condition and common to almost everyone. The fear of not serving God doesn't fall into this category; it is a fear specific to religious people. What makes it specific to religious people is not a difference in basic psychological makeup, as we would hope if we were going to make this an Enneagram type, but a simple difference in creed. If you were to take the personality of a modern atheist and put it in the world of 500 years ago, that atheist would be a believer, not because his basic personality had changed but because there was immense social pressure to believe and religion was infinitely more plausible in those days. His same personality would lead him to different conclusions and make possible an otherwise inconceivable fear.

    The tenth Enneagram type, the one with the potential to outshine them all, would be the type whose basic fear is fear itself.
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