Getting back to the actual topic of the thread, I find Chestnut's descriptions (I haven't read the book, so I'm going on what's been posted in this thread) quite one-sidedly negative. I'm not suggesting that anyone should pretend that people don't have issues, and I think type descriptions should be honest about the weaknesses of the types, but her description isn't as complete as it could be because she doesn't say much about the positives. Take that Sx 4 description, for example. When I read it, I get the impression they're people who have a victim mentality and anger management issues. But is that really what's at the core of their personality? What positives do they bring into the world? Honestly, when I read MBTI descriptions, even if I'm thinking "that's describing the kinds of people I always clash with", I can at least acknowledge that each type brings something valuable to society. But sometimes when I read Enneagram descriptions by people like Chestnut and Naranjo, I find myself thinking, "the world would be better off without people like that". I mean this as a totally impersonal critique of the descriptions, and not an insult to anyone of any particular type. I'm not at all a "positive" person, but I have more faith in human nature than Naranjo and Chestnut seem to.