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    @Starry

    Cool that you met the dalai lama!

    I still use your dad's advice for some things, but I also try to cherish my pleasures and meanings now, and not worry about losing them someday...
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    I say this as a reminder to myself, but this goes for everyone:

    You can achieve anything you set your mind to, and you are limited only by how dedicated you are to succeed!

    -Magic Qwan

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    @Starry

    Cool that you met the dalai lama!

    I still use your dad's advice for some things, but I also try to cherish my pleasures and meanings now, and not worry about losing them someday...
    Enneagram: 6w7 (phobic) > 2w1 > 9w1
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    ATHEIST UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST HUMANIST
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    SCIENCE ENTHUSIAST


    I say this as a reminder to myself, but this goes for everyone:

    You can achieve anything you set your mind to, and you are limited only by how dedicated you are to succeed!

    -Magic Qwan

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    ^^Holy Dalai Lama @Magic Qwan ...

    The fact the first *triple post* I've ever seen on this site involved an individual expressing to me that they occasionally take my father's advice... I'm actually having a slight panic attack right now...and may drive myself to the emergency room later for xanax and an oxygen tank. Please don't do that haha. I mean, the whole "who's gonna give a shit..." <-that's a good one. Anything else you see me quoting of my father's though...just...don't even read it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Magic Qwan has connected with 5 while you are holding tight at 7 is the only difference I see.
    Oooh, interesting observation. Would you mind illustrating an example of this? I thought when Magic said he was more of a slave to his superego and was very critical of himself when he violated what he thought he ought to do it sounded very 1ish. Maybe it could be being social-dom and Fi, but I'm both of those things and I'm not like that at all. I let myself off too easy. Would it be a so/sp vs so/sx difference?

    I do not see you creating any false images. And so yes, you are one of the disintegrated
    Hmm? I get what you mean when you see that I'm holding tight at 7. Connecting with 5, while I acknowledge it as a step towards personal growth, also scares me because it feels like losing a part of myself and caving into all those people who constantly told me I need to focus myself and not be so irresponsible. I always loved that part of myself and don't want to lose it. But I don't see how I've disintegrated to 1 at all. If you could point me towards where areas where I seem disintegrated I'd really appreciate it because of course becoming less unhealthy is something that sounds desirable for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    ^^Holy Dalai Lama @Magic Qwan ...

    The fact the first *triple post* I've ever seen on this site involved an individual expressing to me that they occasionally take my father's advice... I'm actually having a slight panic attack right now...and may drive myself to the emergency room later for xanax and an oxygen tank. Please don't do that haha. I mean, the whole "who's gonna give a shit..." <-that's a good one. Anything else you see me quoting of my father's though...just...don't even read it.

    LOL, ok...
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    ATHEIST UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST HUMANIST
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    SCIENCE ENTHUSIAST


    I say this as a reminder to myself, but this goes for everyone:

    You can achieve anything you set your mind to, and you are limited only by how dedicated you are to succeed!

    -Magic Qwan

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    soo curious to hear about where i am on the disintegration spectrum :X

    i tried to contain myself but i just really wanna know!
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    I was in the same room once with the Dalai Lama...
    I appreciate this question because it caused me to think even more about something that has bothered me...that has consumed a great deal of my thoughts for some time now.
    Must've been a nice experience.

    Glad if my question helped with something.


    Not so long ago an INFJ member here put something to words for me and I have felt relieved and grateful ever since (I don't know why I couldn't do this for myself...? but no matter what I did I couldn't get words assigned to this impression.) That what I primarily see around me on a daily basis are people that "mistake comfortable, uneventful circumstance...for good mental and emotional health and wellbeing." <-And while I am not discounting the role each individual plays in their own comfortable, uneventful circumstance... 'circumstance' and 'integration' are two completely separate entities.
    I certainly don't mistake that for wellbeing. I hate ruts.


    (...) What's weird though is she never mentioned when recounting her struggle how much easier spiritual-journeying probably is... when you can dedicate all of your time to it because you don't have to work. When you live in a penthouse apt. in New York city and you've got a fat alimony check coming in every month. When you have your own personal nutritionist, yoga coach and acupuncturist. When you can travel to all the 'spiritual hot-spots' and consult with every known guru. When you have no children and can afford the 80 lbs of fruits and vegetables it takes to make one glass of juice for your total body cleanse. <-WTF? Who misses this? Who doesn't make this connection? Who gives themselves all the credit for their successes when...? A lot of people. How in the hell can I take this individual's self-help advice as realistic, reasonable, effective...? See, what I want to know is how *integrated* would she be today if she had none of it... How integrated would she be if tomorrow it was all taken away... ???
    Lol body cleanse, what bullshit is that. Anyway I get your point though I wouldn't want to go into speculating if harder life circumstances would've got in the way, or quite the opposite, would've ACTUALLY helped. What doesn't kill you... yeah makes your stronger.

    As for the advice being realistic, I think I agree more on that, yeah, if one of her tips is this BS cleansing crap then I wouldn't really pay attention to the rest of her advice It does sound like all BS even without knowing about these circumstances of her life.

    Oh and that about having a bad relationship with the husband, that does make some sense though, money isn't going to fix that sort of issue.


    I have speculated that integration on earth is not possible. I have certainly met people that are strong, enlightened, righteous, just, good <-but I personally have never met an individual that I believe was sustainably so (except for maybe the Dalai Lama like I said. I think he could perhaps handle whatever was thrown his way .) I have never met an individual that wasn't making use of some form of denial, compartmentalization, rationalization, blame, escape, etc. It is only the people that are aware of this and admit it openly that I care to take my self-help tips from.
    Good point, the bolded. Good thing I'm not trying to be perfect though. I would like to understand some things more, though.

    Now, I'll join the others... :P Do you see disintegration about me? 1 or 5? :P (7 vs 8) :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    soo curious to hear about where i am on the disintegration spectrum :X

    i tried to contain myself but i just really wanna know!
    Silly Nic, you know E7s can't be contained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    Silly Nic, you know E7s can't be contained.
    i don't know WHY i even try. *wiggles*
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    i don't know WHY i even try. *wiggles*
    /wiggles with ya
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