Mind talking about the 8 vs 7w8 as well?To the O.P. I've made a study of 8 and the types that commonly mistype as such (3, cp 6, 7w8).
In my case what I notice is excessive praise and no I don't need it, I sometimes even explicitly tell the person that there is no need to keep flattering me- Image: 3's are very aware of this and can change it to suit their needs, environment, success rate. They desire their image to match that of their culture's desires. 3's I have known are very conscious about their physical presentation and it's fitting with cultural ideals (slightly less for a wing 4 than wing 2). 8 on the other hand is much more individual, and presents the self however they see fit, regardless of the opinions of others. They like what they like, and public opinion matters not. 3's need praise from others, 8's could care less (and in my experience, don't even notice).
If it's just one single comment that's praising me, it can be nice, but I still end up feeling that I really didn't need to hear it because I don't care about other people's expectations. Being self-conscious in this sense does me no good, not my natural state.
How conscious is this for a 3, this thought/desire that they need to be loved for their successes?- Heart vs. Gut: 3 is a heart type and thus desires the love of others-- they feel that in order to be loved, they must be successful/be a winner. Conversely, 8 is a gut or instinctive type, they act on impulse and live in almost "survival" mode.
Thanks, that's again a nice explanation, I still have the same question as above about 3's being conscious about this.@valaki In regards to your question about their attitudes toward success and failure, I believe 3 and 8 attitudes are similar but their motivations are very different. 3 dislikes/fears failure and strives for success to attain love from others (they believe they must be successful to be loved), this is (as aforementioned) why they are in the heart type group. 8 on the other hand desires success and fears failure because they literally believe the entire universe is on their shoulders. It's a control/power thing that stems from mistrust of others (or the competence/ability of others to do what needs done). 8's desire success so they can attain the power to remain always independent and self sustaining.