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    Sadness & Misery compel me to sleep and write poetry because I can't face the world or keep it in my system, respectively. It's not sleep that makes me creative, it's emotion, which also causes sleep.

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    I feel like this has more to do with instinctual variant than being a 4. sp's are probably more likely to be worse off without sufficient sleep, sx's can handle it if there's a fire in them, I don't know too many so 4s.
    Edit: I don't know any so 4s

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    Sometimes, it depends though. If I pull an all-nighter it tends to help me, but not if I've been continually tired for days, that's when I tend to just slack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post

    my tentative explanation is that lack of sleep is bad for people with mood regulation issues. i think sleep is central to emotional well-being and resiliency, and is definitely part of the triad oa mentions from which we derive our interpretations of our mood/felt well-being. these are the places at least in the mind body system in which we've clearly established that seratonin really underlies our basic mood mechanics, our contentment resiliency that funds our ability to let go of discomfort and perceived loss.
    Agree, agree, agree. Like some others have mentioned, I absolutely prefer a late to bed, late to rise schedule, and tend to be more creative/interesting late at night. And if I get up at 7 (but was well-rested), I can keep going til 4 AM and do think that those later hours can be more productive/more engaging. But I am wrecked the next day if I can't sleep til noon. I really need those 8 hours.

    As far as the state i am in's mention of sleep's role in helping us let go of discomfort/perceived loss...this article was interesting to me regarding sleep's role in helping us deal with stress. It's a little pop-psychology-esque, but opened up some trains of thought I'd like to follow a bit more:
    http://m.theatlantic.com/health/arch...asleep/282422/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Sadness & Misery compel me to sleep and write poetry because I can't face the world or keep it in my system, respectively. It's not sleep that makes me creative, it's emotion, which also causes sleep.
    Quote Originally Posted by thatpants View Post
    Agree, agree, agree. Like some others have mentioned, I absolutely prefer a late to bed, late to rise schedule, and tend to be more creative/interesting late at night. And if I get up at 7 (but was well-rested), I can keep going til 4 AM and do think that those later hours can be more productive/more engaging. But I am wrecked the next day if I can't sleep til noon. I really need those 8 hours.

    As far as the state i am in's mention of sleep's role in helping us let go of discomfort/perceived loss...this article was interesting to me regarding sleep's role in helping us deal with stress. It's a little pop-psychology-esque, but opened up some trains of thought I'd like to follow a bit more:
    http://m.theatlantic.com/health/arch...asleep/282422/
    Yes, Abbey's post also made me think of how much energy emotions expend. I always feel like I have less energy than other people, and I do think it's related to more emotional expenditure, especially the kind NOT directed at others in an interaction, because then it's not a reciprocal thing.

    The connection to letting of perceived loss (not just generic stress) is interesting because of the 4 focus on "what is missing".
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    I remember once in college I stayed up for three nights, and I felt like a 4. Maybe if I had spent all of college without sleep, I would have been able to pull off that sensitive artist thing.
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    Oh my goodness, this would explain so much. My 4 roommate pretty much NEVER sleeps during the week. She gets maybe 12 hours of sleep for the entire week, then sleeps for like 30 hours over the weekend.
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    I used to have zero concept of sleep hygiene and had extremely erratic sleep behavior- two hours some nights, twelve others. Then I had a nervous breakdown and had to learn. I seem to be at my best with around seven hours. More than that and I swing into a depressive state. Less than that I begin to get manic. But I also feel a lot more boring and uncreative. I used to do a lot of art in the middle of the night.

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    Well, Marcel, I'm a 4w5. I've learned that sleep is essential for me, but doesn't help my creative output. I work best at 3-6am. But, my relationships suffer with sleep deprivation. I get wired and paranoid without sleep. I'm more stable with 6-7hours/night.
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