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    my parents seem to think I changed when I hit adolescence. when I was a kid I was fun loving and easy going.

    Apparently when I hit adoescence I became intense angry and stopped smiling. my parents seem to think there is something wrong with me from how I changed as I got older.

    has any other 8 experienced a similar change before their family? is this 8 related? or should I continue to believe they are all fucking retards? My dad seems to think I randomly decided to reenact "rebel without a cause."

    there was some kind of mood shift. I spoke to girls for the first time and started to harden up my emotions, but Its hard for me to understand how I came off during this time.

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    I'm not entirely an 8, but I do have an 8 fix, and something definitely happened during adolescence. I think in my early childhood the 8 was buried underneath my core 5, but I started noticing myself get way more angry than I use to around adolescence. When my 8 fix started showing, I started getting way more self-confident in myself than previously and I also became much less fearful, and way more hostile and opinionated as well. I also developed a habit of suppressing my emotions so I couldn't be called out for being emotionally weak, so whenever I got truly angry, I suppressed all of my emotions except for hatred and anger really, and that scared the shit out of my parents and friends. However, since I'm a core 5, I didn't want to be seen as emotionally imbalanced, I sort of developed as a counter-passion 8 with more emphasis on passive-aggressive anger than explosive anger. Unlike a 9 however, I would go into this state and become inflexible and hostile to those that still dare press on unless I deemed the argument to be more trouble than it was worth, in which I would simply tell them to leave me the fuck alone.

    You talk about how you would get explosively angry with your parents, I realized I didn't want to go through the pointless trouble of a scream-fest so I usually just told them "alright, sorry" and desperately held back the urge to scream profanities and throw things.

    I've grown to realize that explosive anger doesn't really get you anywhere, as people sort of expect it nowadays. People are always afraid of the passive-aggressives, we give off a more intimidating aura.

    5w4 - 8w9 - 4w3 btw

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    passive aggressives are scary because they will slash your tires then smile at you the next day and you cant really do much about it.

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    hmm... i need to ask them for observations and not judgements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    passive aggressives are scary because they will slash your tires then smile at you the next day and you cant really do much about it.
    Yep, I'm that guy. I've done some pretty clever shit to people before. I remember one time in middle school some guy pissed me off (complete dick totally deserved it) so I weaved a story that he was racist and started spreading the rumor throughout my mostly African-American school. Fun times.

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    I think they also take it very personally that I would only show a girlfriend affection and not them.

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    Just curious...what kind of people are your parents? I mean what do they value? How do they treat you? Those kinds of things. Also, what kinds of personalities do they have? Why would they take it personally? Hope you don't mind me asking but this could prove to be a learning experience in the study of personalities.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=61024&page=14

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    That's just your brain developing probably more Se related. I knew two ESTPs who were dorks all through school until they graduated and turned into typical ESTP party animals. My Ti kicked in around the same time too.

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    my parents are (I think) istj estj

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    I'm not Se, and I'm not a core 8, but I did experience a very similar phenomenon.

    As a kid, I was sort of this miserable little hypersensitive reject, creative social-4 type. I was also willful and stubborn and always had this thing about not showing pain or weakness to others...but I basically wanted people to be my friend and felt sad that they were mean to me.

    Around the age of 13 I suddenly became hostile to my peers, starting thinking of life as "war", and basically stopped caring if they rejected me or not (or at least I was able to convince myself of that, lol). I wasn't openly aggressive or anything, but there was a distinct shift in mentality. I was an angry teen at home, too; my stepfather was--and is to this day--convinced I'm "criminally insane" (he's a 9w1, 925, so he's forgiven).

    I've heard similar reports from other 8s and parents of 8s, as well as some cp6s. Those are both my fixes, lol, so I guess it's just inevitable.

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