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    I feel like, if you put the word "counterphobic" in front of anything, you just get E8.

    Counterphobic 2 fear of being unloved = I DONT NEED YOUR LOVE!
    Counterphobic 5 fear of being inadequate = acting before feeling adequate
    counterphobic 1 fear of being corrupt = CORRUPT EVERYONE ELSE!
    Counterphobic 3 fear of being worthless = BECOME A LAZY SELF CONTENTED SHIT
    Counterphobic 4 fear of being insignificant = BE COMPLETELY INSIGNIFICANT (this seems to be the only one that doesn't apply)
    Counterphobic 6 fear of being without support and guidance = I'LL DO IT MY DAMN SELF
    Counterphobic 7 fear of not having your desires met = EXPUNGE DESIRES THAT CANNOT BE MET
    Counterphobic 9 fear of loss and separation = FUCK THE WORLD WHO NEEDS EM

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    I am reminded of this article. The posed sitter/rover dichotomy satisfies me more as analogous to phobic/counterphobic than introvert/extravert. And I do like the idea of a p/cp version of every type. It would explain a few things for me, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    that's just disintegrating to 7
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    Isnt the reason only 6s have counterphobic labels in the theory that they a) are part of the anxiety group and b) are the type of that group that externalizes their trait?

    'Countershamed' aka openly prideful2s?
    'Counterangered' aka restrained/ hesitant 8s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    I feel like, if you put the word "counterphobic" in front of anything, you just get E8.

    Counterphobic 2 fear of being unloved = I DONT NEED YOUR LOVE!
    Counterphobic 5 fear of being inadequate = acting before feeling adequate
    counterphobic 1 fear of being corrupt = CORRUPT EVERYONE ELSE!
    Counterphobic 3 fear of being worthless = BECOME A LAZY SELF CONTENTED SHIT
    Counterphobic 4 fear of being insignificant = BE COMPLETELY INSIGNIFICANT (this seems to be the only one that doesn't apply)
    Counterphobic 6 fear of being without support and guidance = I'LL DO IT MY DAMN SELF
    Counterphobic 7 fear of not having your desires met = EXPUNGE DESIRES THAT CANNOT BE MET
    Counterphobic 9 fear of loss and separation = FUCK THE WORLD WHO NEEDS EM
    Dear god, even counterphobic 8 would sound like E8 O.O

    Counterphobic 8 fear of vulnerability = FUCK YOU HERE I AM AND THESE ARE MY EMOTIONS DEAL WITH IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Isnt the reason only 6s have counterphobic labels in the theory that they a) are part of the anxiety group and b) are the type of that group that externalizes their trait?
    'Countershamed' aka openly prideful2s?
    'Counterangered' aka restrained/ hesitant 8s?
    this is a common misconception. openly prideful 2s are the "normal" 2s. it's the false humble, "oh, it was nothing" 2s who are the counter-passion 2s
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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Counterphobic might not be the best term to use as it's already used to describe a certain orientation of 6s, but 5s who integrate to 8 to and don't withdraw will have a "counterphobic" feel to them. I've used this video before but it's a good example.

    Please don't tell me that you are suggesting Howard Hughes or Leonardo DiCaprio's portrayal of him is an E5.

    I didn't watch the video though.

    I think House is a good example for a 5 who's integrated to a e8 and doesn't withdraw.

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