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    Default 7w8 sx/sp - describe?

    What does a 7w8 sx/sp look like? Any good descriptions around?

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    looks like me

    what are your questions?

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    @pinkgraffiti I don't really know you (I read your name as pinkgiraffe at first glance, which amused me to no end)

    http://www.asianfoodgrocer.com/img/p...ie-pink-lg.jpg

    So, how do you think you're different than a 7w8 sp/sx or 7w8 sx/so or 7w8 so/sx or 7w8 sx/sp or 7w8 sp/so?

    I'm basically wondering about the instinctual stacking/variants? How they manifest in conjunction with enneagram type?

    Thanks so much.

    @Udog - that resource was really helpful, I wish they had a section on how sx/sp looks like rather than asking us to THINK and do the work of combining each individual profile of sx and sp to get a picture of what that manifests as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qrious View Post
    What does a 7w8 sx/sp look like? Any good descriptions around?
    I'll provide you with some links later, but in a nutshell...

    7 in general: 7s are all about experiencing pleasure and avoiding pain. they tend to have energetic personalities and fast paced minds and have no problem asserting their desires and preferences upon the world. with the exception of Social 7s, 7s tend to be very self focused personalities, focused primarily on getting what they want and avoiding what they don't. 7s also hate being controlled and will have no problem pushing back hard if they feel any attempts to do so. however, at the same time, 7s are usually pretty friendly and their playful, mischievous demeanor and thirst for adventure tend to draw people to them (though their shocking, irreverent, often sexual humor, and disregard for rules push just as many people away, particularly if the 8 wing is dominant). at their worst, 7s are narcissistic, gluttonous, entitled and extremely harsh/critical (both of themselves and others), tending towards tendencies of escapism and procrastination. at their best, 7s are lively, productive, confident, grateful and generous and.

    7w8: 7w8 is the bad boy of the enneagram. the 8 wing gives them a more visceral feel, more drive, more focus, and more ability to stomach the unpleasant aspects of pursuing their goals. 7w8s are impulsive, action oriented people and are usually more thrill seeking and competitive than their 7w6 cousins. 7w8s like to play rough and often enjoy pranks or practical jokes that cause the "victim" a little bit of pain. overall, the 7w8 has an energy like a race car, zooming toward the object of it's desire.
    Examples: Jack Nicholson, Joan Rivers, Steve Jobs, Scarlett O'Hara

    7w6: for comparison, 7w6 is typically more imaginative, fantastical and has an energy more like a fox (7w8 typically comes off more like a wolf, hyena or chimpanzee). they typically have a slightly nervous energy about them and a more childlike charm to their personalities. being 7s, they are still core assertive types (3, 7 and 8), but the 6 wing softens 7's narcissistic tendencies (in contrast to the 8 wing, which magnifies them), adds a touch of caution and often results in a stronger tendency to second guess oneself.
    Examples: Mila Kunis, Brad Pitt, Captain Jack Sparrow, Zorro

    Sexual 7s: the darkest subtype of 7 and the most in touch with 7's feelings of frustration. they're also the most introverted variant, spending lots of time dreaming of far off fantasies because, generally, there is little in the real world that really stimulates them. as a result, they often mistype as 4s and will not usually relate to the bubbly, party animal stereotype that has (quite inaccurately) been attached to 7. sexual 7s typically gravitate toward vibrant, attention grabbing dress and have a keen eye and appreciation for beauty.

    Self Preservation 7s: in contrast to the more gentle, sensual nature of Sexual 7s, Self Preservation 7s are cunning, ambitious and among the most ruthless types on the enneagram (in my opinion, they're basically head center 8s). Self Preservation 7s are all about advancing their position; however, unlike a 3 (and more typical social climbers in general), they are in it for the perks of the high life. they want the best clothes, the best food and the ability to surround themselves with like minded people whom share their interests and can provide entertainment. however, once the Self Preservation 7 does find people whom they connect with on a deeper level, they're very much about looking after "their own" and can exhibit a protective, fatherly demeanor (which is, once again, very similar to 8s). they tend to be very generous with such people and are usually willing to lend a hand when a friend is between a rock and a hard place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    7w6: for comparison, 7w6 is typically more imaginative, fantastical and has an energy more like a fox (7w8 typically comes off more like a wolf, hyena or chimpanzee). they typically have a slightly nervous energy about them and a more childlike charm to their personalities. being 7s, they are still core assertive types (3, 7 and 8), but the 6 wing softens 7's narcissistic tendencies (in contrast to the 8 wing, which magnifies them), adds a touch of caution and often results in a stronger tendency to second guess oneself.
    Really good 7w6 description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Really good 7w6 description.
    I'm really bad at enneagram stuff- but I would agree with that. So I think I am typed right in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Really good 7w6 description.
    thanx =)
    I felt compelled to include it because most of the 7w6 descriptions make us sound like nervous, submissive entertainers. as a result, many 7w6s are put off by them (self included) and mistype as 7w8 because they see themselves as more assertive and capable.
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    Oh dang! Just read sexual 7 too. Link please.
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Oh dang! Just read sexual 7 too. Link please.
    from Maitri
    Sexual 7: Suggestibility.
    Sexual Sevens tend to merge with whatever ideas, plans, or people they come into contact with. So they are easily influenced, especially by their partner or someone they are attracted to. The prospect of a relationship with someone sets off their mapping and planning, and the relationship gets projected well into the future, with infinite possibilities appearing just over the horizon. So they are suggestible in the sense of being easily swayed and impacted, as well as in the sense of being easily propelled into myriad fantasies by or about a relationship. The passion of gluttony appears here in the many attractions that Sexual Sevens tend to have and in their difficulty in forming deep, long-term contact with one person.

    from Naranjo
    Sexual: Suggestibility. More extraterrestrial; actually not very sexual—more poetic, more the dreamer.
    The "charmed charmer." Prestidigitator. More narcissistic. Like being in love, more enthusiastic
    ("Tomorrow my enthusiasm might take me in another direction"), mania. Not so much into pleasures of
    this world, more extraterrestrial. May not be very sexual in the literal sense.
    ^I think the "actually not very sexual" part is bullshit, but other than that, I think this is a good description

    from Ocean Moonshine
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    The energy of the sexual instinct is, in some ways, at odds with the type Seven fixation. The Seven’s focus is future oriented and outward, away from the inner world, while the sexual variant is instinctual and dwells on the inner self as far as relationships and identity are concerned. This combination can make for a Seven that can be Four-like in many ways. They can have a flamboyant style and be very moody and intense. In relationships, there is often a push-pull quality. They are very attracted to the falling in love part. The buzz and high of that is very stimulating to them, almost drug-like for them. Their problems come when that buzz wears off. They want to recreate it again and again, but they also have a way of becoming attached and sometimes very dependent on their romantic partners. On the down side, they can be very clingy but don’t want at the same time to lose their freedom. When unhealthy, they can be very selfish in these relationships, things become one-sided in a way that favors the interests of the Seven.

    The sexual/self-pres Seven’s addictive behavior with relationships can extend to other areas, like music, and performing in general. The rock star image and lifestyle can be attractive to the sexual Seven. Many rock stars are sexual Sevens the buzz they experience from music can be similar to what they experience in relationships. Creativity can also function as a release of frustration from the boredom.
    PS: another 7w6/7w8 difference I've noticed is that 7w8's energy seems to be constantly pushing toward something. 7w6s tend to alternate between driven/forward pushing and a more 9-ish, mellow energy. we typically need more down time than 7w8s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Sexual 7s: the darkest subtype of 7 and the most in touch with 7's feelings of frustration. they're also the most introverted variant, spending lots of time dreaming of far off fantasies because, generally, there is little in the real world that really stimulates them. as a result, they often mistype as 4s and will not usually relate to the bubbly, party animal stereotype that has (quite inaccurately) been attached to 7. sexual 7s typically gravitate toward vibrant, attention grabbing dress and have a keen eye and appreciation for beauty.
    Sounds just like me.
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