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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    from Maitri



    from Naranjo

    ^I think the "actually not very sexual" part is bullshit, but other than that, I think this is a good description

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    PS: another 7w6/7w8 difference I've noticed is that 7w8's energy seems to be constantly pushing toward something. 7w6s tend to alternate between driven/forward pushing and a more 9-ish, mellow energy. we typically need more down time than 7w8s
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    @Elfboy, thanks for all this wonderful information. I'll ask more detailed info when I'm not typing from my cell.

    One quick thing - I'm not very flamboyant, whether it be clothes, appearance or histrionic behaviour. I can be moody though, but I simmer, ticking like a bomb, and then I burst.

    I am very easily influenced to try things. I am ambitious but it's not so much for material gains or recognition from others as I have this dark underbelly to my personality where I think I'm better/more capable than I perhaps really am. And the ambition is to prove that self-fulfilling prophecy. I am my own worst cut-throat competitor, if that makes sense?

    I agree with the detached from reality and fantasising and with parts of the way sx/sp are in romantic relationships, but not all. I need to quote the proper sections with my comments - when I'm not on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qrious View Post
    @Elfboy, thanks for all this wonderful information. I'll ask more detailed info when I'm not typing from my cell.
    One quick thing - I'm not very flamboyant, whether it be clothes, appearance or histrionic behaviour. I can be moody though, but I simmer, ticking like a bomb, and then I burst.
    I am very easily influenced to try things. I am ambitious but it's not so much for material gains or recognition from others as I have this dark underbelly to my personality where I think I'm better/more capable than I perhaps really am. And the ambition is to prove that self-fulfilling prophecy. I am my own worst cut-throat competitor, if that makes sense?
    I agree with the detached from reality and fantasising and with parts of the way sx/sp are in romantic relationships, but not all. I need to quote the proper sections with my comments - when I'm not on my phone.
    based on this, you likely have a 3w4 fix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    based on this, you likely have a 3w4 fix
    Of course!!!

    ....what does that mean? Fix?

    /ennea-idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qrious View Post
    Of course!!!
    ....what does that mean? Fix?
    /ennea-idiot
    a "fix" is a type from your trifix (also known as your tritype). according to tritype theory (which I subscribe to, not everyone does), each person has a core type, but also two types, one from each of the other two centers, which also influence the personality.
    for instance, you type as a 7. 7 is a head type, so you would also have a gut type (1, 8 or 9) and a heart type (2, 3 or 4) impacting your personality.

    for example, I am a 7w6>1w9>3w4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    a "fix" is a type from your trifix (also known as your tritype). according to tritype theory (which I subscribe to, not everyone does), each person has a core type, but also two types, one from each of the other two centers, which also influence the personality.
    for instance, you type as a 7. 7 is a head type, so you would also have a gut type (1, 8 or 9) and a heart type (2, 3 or 4) impacting your personality.

    for example, I am a 7w6>1w9>4w3
    fixed (I'm very much a 3 wannabe, but I lack the neuroses of a type 3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qrious View Post
    @Elfboy, thanks for all this wonderful information. I'll ask more detailed info when I'm not typing from my cell.

    One quick thing - I'm not very flamboyant, whether it be clothes, appearance or histrionic behaviour. I can be moody though, but I simmer, ticking like a bomb, and then I burst.

    I am very easily influenced to try things. I am ambitious but it's not so much for material gains or recognition from others as I have this dark underbelly to my personality where I think I'm better/more capable than I perhaps really am. And the ambition is to prove that self-fulfilling prophecy. I am my own worst cut-throat competitor, if that makes sense?

    I agree with the detached from reality and fantasising and with parts of the way sx/sp are in romantic relationships, but not all. I need to quote the proper sections with my comments - when I'm not on my phone.
    @Qrious did you figure out your wing? I was curious about this, too. I just don't ID or understand Sixes at all (I was married to one). But I can't see myself being as aggressive as an 8, either (I am judging based on what I see in my sister who is an 8). I can be aggressive but it's more likely to arise from impatience (my worst vice), so I get the bomb thing. I'm much likely to say how things are going to be and proceed to do it than approach it from a "don't try to stop me!" kind of thing.

    I'm ambitious, too, but mostly for the economic power it will bring. I'm sick of being poor! There's not a lot I want to buy, I simply want the power to buy it if I want to...I like hanging onto money more than I like spending it. Can you talk more about your ambition? What has it led you to or want to do right now?

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    Oh, wow. Recently, I've been seriously debating my own tri-type and wing. I thought I was a 7w6, but as @Redbone says...I really don't relate to Sixes much. I wanted to think that I did because I'm imaginative and playful, more entertainer than entrepreneur. Frankly, the idea of being a 7w8 was kind of a turn-off; most descriptions of the type paint vague descriptions of assholes. To an extent.

    Having said that, the fears and defense mechanisms of Eights make far more sense to me than those of Sixes. I am generally a very live-and-let-live person, tolerant and open-minded with regard to differences of lifestyle and opinion, etc., etc., until some person seems to be actively overstepping boundaries, judging or controlling or otherwise attempting to sway me in any kind of confrontational manner. And once I finally bite, I tend to bite hard.

    I've also scored higher on type 8 than 6 on virtually every Enneagram test I've ever taken - but those are only tests, and it's complicated. From what I've read, my understanding is that a counter-phobic Six can resemble an Eight.

    Essentially, I started questioning that I might be a 7w8 instead of a 7w6 when taking into consideration the following:
    - My friends have consistently described me as an extremely intense, even intimidating person. I'm not sure if that's an 8-wing or just my dominant instinct, but all of my buddies tell me that I'm apparently far more assertive/aggressive than I thought myself to be.
    - I have always been a free spirit. I sometimes go out of my way to do the opposite of what I've been told to do, especially when I disagree with the logic involved and feel perfectly capable of handling the situation on my own (it is not designed to hurt feelings, but it sends a strong message: back off, stop meddling in my business).
    - I trust myself more than I trust others (but could that be a Six thing?).
    - I value my independence, even in close relationships. I love the emotional, chemical, intoxicating charge that comes from the uncertain excitement of sex and "falling in love" - in fact, it pretty much owns me - but I'm not okay with vulnerability. I really like my space and am not likely to say "I love you," even if I feel it.

    I think it's possible that I have an 8-fix, which would confuse my feelings about this even more. On top of all of that, I think I need to square with the fact that I probably have some type 3 influences swimming around in my head as well. I'm such a contradiction. I'm an introvert - I used to suffer from social anxiety! Now that I'm better, I no longer fear people or crowds or going after what I want, but I'm still perfectly content to do my own thing as long as I'm enjoying myself. People aren't necessary, but they can be fun...if they happen to be going where I want to go, and they're up for the adventure (and we're not doing the small talk thing, small talk is useless). Essentially, I'm surprised that I relate so well to a triple-assertive tri-fix.

    Anyway, if anyone has insight on my case, I'd welcome it. I haven't read everything there is to read about Sixes and Eights, so I'm sure I could learn something. The only things I'm sure of at this point are that I'm a core 7 and an Sx-dom.

    Oh, yeah, @Elfboy - I definitely agree that sexual Sevens "not actually being that sexual" is complete bullshit. I think Sx-dom Sevens are probably one of the the most sexual types in the whole Enneagram, maybe the most.
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    @AntiheroComplex
    social anxiety is very much antithetical to triple Id 7w8. a triple Id 7w8 would be much more callous and have a more opportunistic outlook with regards to social interaction (many people mistyped at 7w8/8w7 will disagree with me, but that's fine). despite being a head type, 7w8s don't experience much in the way of anxiety and are not naturally inclined to care about how they are perceived unless it is useful for them to be taken well (for instance, if they're selling you something)

    based on what I've seen of you on the forum, you seem 7w6>1w9>3w4/4w3 Sx/Sp (shit, you're really similar to me LOL). you seem more self contained and upright to be triple Id

    remember that all 7s are assertive types, so they're going to value their freedom and independence and are more than willing to assert their needs and preferences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @AntiheroComplex
    social anxiety is very much antithetical to triple Id 7w8. a triple Id 7w8 would be much more callous and have a more opportunistic outlook with regards to social interaction (many people mistyped at 7w8/8w7 will disagree with me, but that's fine). despite being a head type, 7w8s don't experience much in the way of anxiety and are not naturally inclined to care about how they are perceived unless it is useful for them to be taken well (for instance, if they're selling you something)

    based on what I've seen of you on the forum, you seem 7w6>1w9>3w4/4w3 Sx/Sp (shit, you're really similar to me LOL). you seem more self contained and upright to be triple Id

    remember that all 7s are assertive types, so they're going to value their freedom and independence and are more than willing to assert their needs and preferences.
    Thanks for the input!

    Yeah, again...if it's worth anything at all, I might underscore the fact that I used to suffer from social anxiety. Used to. There are many things I do now that I never could have done years ago, like aggressively chase a job/promotion when opportunity presents itself, grind with strangers on a dance floor, and boldly tell my romantic prospects where they stand with me (even if they've given no hints of their own at all).

    I still like the idea that I'm 7>4>1 or 7>1>4, though, because something has to account for those introverted dreamer qualities. Maybe even 7>1>3, something... I'm definitely social-last, and I feel like even reticent 7>3>8 types would know how to work the living shit out of a room. That's a pretty good point.

    So maybe my intensity, as read by my friends, is my natural excitability working in combination with the sexual instinct. I can't seem to share anything I'm excited about, good or bad, without going off the deep end...which no doubt seems rather tangent-like to my more laid-back buds.

    It's interesting to hear how I come off on here! I do write with a more restrained, mellowed demeanor than I generally express in person, that's for sure; I kind of use my professional voice in the forum, which might hint that I have traces of type 1 floatin' around in here. I used to relate to that type when I was enduring a mental breakdown/first learned of the Enneagram, but not much since.

    Thanks for shedding some light on the 7w6 vs. 7w8 issue. Based on your perspective, I'd probably be a 7w6.
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