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    Default Why is 8 correlated with Thinking types?

    many 8s are intelligent and strategic thinkers, but a read of any decent 8 description should make clear that 8 is not a fundamentally rational type, but an instinctual, temperamental and "go with what feels right" type. yes, you have you NTJ 8 "take over the world" types (usually 5 fixed and Sp dom), but these are the exception, not the rule.

    if anything, the type that comes to my mind when reading most 8 descriptions is ESFP. when I think Thinking types, I think more along the lines of 1, 5 and 6w5
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    Because thinkers are better at objective thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Because thinkers are better at objective thinking.
    exactly, and 8s aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    exactly, and 8s aren't.
    If your theory is correct then why do we see so few feeling type 8's on the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    If your theory is correct then why do we see so few feeling type 8's on the forum?
    simple:
    1) many Thinkers mistype as 8s
    2) many Feeling 8s mistype as other types
    3) fewer 8s are interested in typology

    your ESFP 8w7 manager that we talked about is a good example. I'm pretty sure that guy would not type as a Feeler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    simple:
    1) many Thinkers mistype as 8s
    2) many Feeling 8s mistype as other types
    3) fewer 8s are interested in typology

    your ESFP 8w7 manager that we talked about is a good example. I'm pretty sure that guy would not type as a Feeler
    But because he was type 8 he had strong Te. Another good question that I have to ask you to refute this theory, is that if thinking functions don't correlate with type 8, then why is it that you almost never see a feeling dom whom is a type 8? If you think about it, the people that are indeed feelers that are type 8's are almost always people with a strong thinking tertiary functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    But because he was type 8 he had strong Te. Another good question that I have to ask you to refute this theory, is that if thinking functions don't correlate with type 8, then why is it that you almost never see a feeling dom whom is a type 8? If you think about it, the people that are indeed feelers that are type 8's are almost always people with a strong thinking tertiary functions.
    well:
    EFJ: dom/aux Fe is rather antithetical to 8 (I should have clarified I was talking more about FPs)

    IFP: IFP 8 doesn't seem too bizarre to me, though they wouldn't look stereotypically 8. two good examples are:
    1) Sean Penn: INFP 8w7 Sx/Sp
    2) Johnny Cash: ISFP 8w9 Sx/Sp

    the 8w9(sw9w1) in particular I could easily see as being Fi dom. other potential Fi dom 8s
    Arya Stark (Game of Thrones: ISFP 8w7(sw7w6) Sx/Sp (could be 7w8 and/or ESFP)
    Nightmare (Soul Calibur): I?FP 8w9(sw9w1) Sx/Sp
    Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games): ISFP 8w9(sw9w1) Sp/Sx
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    It could be an Se thing? Given that 7w8 is common among ESPs and 9w8 is very common among ISPs. NFJs could also disintegrate to 8 if they were 2s, which parallels the idea that people use their lower functions (in this case, Se and Ti) when faced with stress.

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    ESFP is the only non-thinker type that's likely to be one. Throw in a few ENFJs and that's pretty much it (unless you wanna start bringing up INTP 4s).

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    I'm not sure 8's are correlated with T. I had an ENFJ manager for awhile who acted very much like an 8 in just that "instinctual, temperamental and 'go with what feels right'" way.
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