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    Quote Originally Posted by PimpinMcBoltage View Post
    How would you prove that there is a lot of 8s of those types?

    Strangely enough I actually think there are more INTJ 8s than ISTP 8s. I have no idea why. Ti dom doesn't really scream 8 to me at all.
    In my experience,

    ISTP 8's are usually mistyped ESTP or ISTJ.

    While INTJ 8's are usually mistyped ISTJ, ENTJ, or ENTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PimpinMcBoltage View Post
    How would you prove that there is a lot of 8s of those types?

    Strangely enough I actually think there are more INTJ 8s than ISTP 8s. I have no idea why. Ti dom doesn't really scream 8 to me at all.
    I would also think a lot of these 8s are just mistyped counterphobic 6s. Or sexual 1s for INTJs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    there aren't a lot of INTJ 8w7s (there are some, but not a lot)
    No I think that there's a lot more INTJ 8w7's than you would think.

    Quote Originally Posted by PimpinMcBoltage View Post
    How would you prove that there is a lot of 8s of those types?

    Strangely enough I actually think there are more INTJ 8s than ISTP 8s. I have no idea why. Ti dom doesn't really scream 8 to me at all.
    Look at any MBTI + enneagram correlation site and they will confirm my theory.

    Also, when it comes to ISTP's being 8w7's, it makes perfect sense to me...

    From what I have observed any type what has both a strong thinking function and a strong gut center function (Se and Te) tends to commonly be type 8's.

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    8 is correlated with aggression. Aggression is often thought of as being due to a lack of relatedness to the person being aggressed against, and this is associated with being an egocentric "Thinking" type. I think however that Type 8 may actually be more a trait of the scorned Feeling type, who wishes to push their own values onto the world around them.

    It is easy to see why there is a correlation, but is it actually correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concur_Withall View Post
    8 is correlated with aggression. Aggression is often thought of as being due to a lack of relatedness to the person being aggressed against, and this is associated with being an egocentric "Thinking" type. I think however that Type 8 may actually be more a trait of the scorned Feeling type, who wishes to push their own values onto the world around them.
    It is easy to see why there is a correlation, but is it actually correct?
    this is pretty much my thinking. I think Feeling types (FPs specifically) are more in touch with their anger and lust than Thinking types.
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    I doubt it.

    Most feeling types hate conflict.

    Put a bunch of feeling types in a group and you'll find the biggest group of fakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tralala View Post
    Put a bunch of feeling types in a group and you'll find the biggest group of fakers.
    clearly you don't know much about cognitive functions. if you put a bunch of extroverted feelers in a group, you may well have a bunch of fakers, but introverted feeling is the antithesis of fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concur_Withall View Post
    8 is correlated with aggression. Aggression is often thought of as being due to a lack of relatedness to the person being aggressed against, and this is associated with being an egocentric "Thinking" type. I think however that Type 8 may actually be more a trait of the scorned Feeling type, who wishes to push their own values onto the world around them.

    It is easy to see why there is a correlation, but is it actually correct?
    Being an 8 isn't a "trait". It's the opposite, you're an 8 because of the traits you present. It also has nothing to do whatsoever with being "scorned", neither are 8's controlling of people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    this is pretty much my thinking. I think Feeling types (FPs specifically) are more in touch with their anger and lust than Thinking types.
    Judging by our actions, it does seem so. But I'm interested in what have you observed that made you come to this conclusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by tralala View Post
    I doubt it.

    Most feeling types hate conflict.

    Put a bunch of feeling types in a group and you'll find the biggest group of fakers.
    Your ignorance is astonishing.

    I'm yet to come across an Extroverted Feeler who avoids conflict. Maybe a type 9 one, but an 8?

    As for labeling Feelers as fakers, shows how much you know about MBTI.

    And how convenient for you to just join in with an username "tralala" as a type 8w7 ENTJ.

    I call bullshit.
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    You've categorically never come across an Fe that doesn't avoid conflict?

    Funny.

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