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    Maybe I got charged with murdering a room full of toddlers, you don't know me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chana View Post
    Maybe I got charged with murdering a room full of toddlers, you don't know me
    Lol, I'm guessing possession of pot or some traffic violation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    Lol, I'm guessing possession of pot or some traffic violation
    Well you guessed the least serious of my 3 charges, lol.

    I think your definition of a criminal is pretty narrow though.. It seems like you're only counting crimes you find morally offensive which isn't the reality. People can get locked up for a large chunk of their lives for making a mistake. And they're certainly considered a criminal by most of "decent" society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    Lol it sucks to think this, but whenever I read or hear about f-cked up crimes of passion like a teenager drowning their baby for seemingly no reason, someone shooting up a school, etc. I can't help but think about an unhealthy cp6 going bat-sh-t crazy due to anxiety.

    Even growing up in the "hood", I've noticed 90% of the kids ive seen going down the wrong path and screwing their lives up are unhealthy 6s, some of these people I've known really well. They relieve their issues of anxiety through unprotected sex, drugs, gang banging, robbing people, etc. In every delinquent I see a scared child that's just way too familiar to me. I've managed to steer clear of that route throughout my life, but I can't help but feel unsettled knowing so many other people of my type cope this way.

    Obviously, lots of different unhealthy types such as 7s, 8s and even 3s (in a more ambitious way) that can display this behavior too, but there's something about the 6 ones that are really unsettling to me. It's less composed, and more erratic and unjustified. An 8 with a child would have more composure, a 7 would probably embrace the child with optimism, but an unhealthy cp6 will straight up abuse the child out of anxiety and raise another kid with a f-cked up childhood. It's such a common sight in my environment and I can't help but be embarassed.

    Do you think there's a correlation?
    There's a high number of counterphobics/individuals with cp-wings in my family and so I've been fascinated by this topic for a while now... yet just now as I type this I'm realizing I'm a bit stuck...wondering how to respond. For starters...I want to point out that 'unhealthy e6' is not synonymous with 'counterphobic e6.' This is not to say there isn't a shit-ton of unhealthy e6cps out there ... but it's by no means an 'if-->then' type of phenomenon.

    The type of crimes you mention above... well, it's a bit random. And I'm left to wonder when it became a crime to have unprotected sex in our nation and how that is being enforced...haha (it should be illegal). If we're talking about the kinds of delinquent behaviors and actual crimes (property crime, drug-trafficking, etc.) that seemingly plague urban areas... I would not (necessarily) expect to find a higher number of e6cps involved in those type of activities over other types.

    If what we are talking about, however, is child abuse... I would actually expect to find an under-representation of e6cps involved in those type of offenses. Now, I need to make this perfectly clear though... an absence of incidents that would legally qualify as child abuse does not = effective parenting by any stretch of the imagination. But counterphobics are not called 'The Protectors' for nothing. Counterphobics are very mindful of things like loyalty, the under-dog, 'us against the world', defending those that are perceived as not having a 'voice.' <--What I have noticed is that e6cps tend to factor their children into that formula as well. So for example, my eNFJ 6w5cp sister...she is, at times, a force to be reckoned with...and that's putting it mildly. No one is immune to/from one of her attacks if she perceives them to be in the wrong... and yet she has never so much as raised her voice to her children. Basically, for e6cps...there will be a handful of people in the 'us' or 'underdog' role that are considered 'blameless' really and the e6cp will protect...even from themselves I imagine.

    OMG...I've been interrupted I don't even know how many times when creating this response haha. I've lost the rest of what I was planning to say. But since the time I started this message...to now when I go post it...perhaps someone has already said it (or a similar thing) in a reply. This reminds me I was going to comment on your Eminem & Tupac typings (both counterphobics)...but I guess I better do that in your Rap/Hip-Hop thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    There's a high number of counterphobics/individuals with cp-wings in my family and so I've been fascinated by this topic for a while now... yet just now as I type this I'm realizing I'm a bit stuck...wondering how to respond. For starters...I want to point out that 'unhealthy e6' is not synonymous with 'counterphobic e6.' This is not to say there isn't a shit-ton of unhealthy e6cps out there ... but it's by no means an 'if-->then' type of phenomenon.

    The type of crimes you mention above... well, it's a bit random. And I'm left to wonder when it became a crime to have unprotected sex in our nation and how that is being enforced...haha (it should be illegal). If we're talking about the kinds of delinquent behaviors and actual crimes (property crime, drug-trafficking, etc.) that seemingly plague urban areas... I would not (necessarily) expect to find a higher number of e6cps over other types.

    If what we are talking about, however, is child abuse... I would actually expect to find an under-representation of e6cps involved in those type of offenses. Now, I need to make this perfectly clear though... an absence of incidents that would legally qualify as child abuse does not = effective parenting by any stretch of the imagination. But counterphobics are not called 'The Protectors' for nothing. Counterphobics are very mindful of things like loyalty, the under-dog, 'us against the world', defending those that are perceived as not having a 'voice.' <--What I have noticed is that e6cps tend to factor their children into that formula as well. So for example, my eNFJ 6w5cp sister...she is, at times, a force to be reckoned with...and that's putting it mildly. No one is immune to/from one of her attacks if she perceives them to be in the wrong... and yet has never so much as raised her voice to her children. Basically, for e6cps...there will be a handful of people in the 'us' or 'underdog' role that are considered 'blameless' really and the e6cp will protect...even from themselves I imagine.

    OMG...I've been interrupted I don't even know how many times when creating this response haha. I've lost the rest of what I was planning to say. But since the time I started this message...to now when I go post it...perhaps someone has already said it (or a similar thing) in a reply. This reminds me I was going to comment on your Eminem & Tupac typings (both counterphobics)...but I guess I better do that in your Rap/Hip-Hop thread
    At their core, cp6s don't mean to be malicious at all. Some of the ones I've known have been genuinely good but confused and somewhat reckless people. It's the tendency to shoot themselves in the foot and going WAY off the deep end that bothers me. They're either really courageous or admirable, or the epitome of stupidity like Hitler, Kanye West, or the older sister who gets knocked up and scorns her mother and family due to projection.

    A side of my says, hey I'm gonna be that courageous, confident and admirable person, but then there's that fear that I'll end up succumbing to the same stupidity that seems to plague alot of average to unhealthy Sixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    At their core, cp6s don't mean to be malicious at all. Some of the ones I've known have been genuinely good but confused and somewhat reckless people. It's the tendency to shoot themselves in the foot and going WAY off the deep end that bothers me. They're either really courageous or admirable, or the epitome of stupidity like Hitler, Kanye West, or the older sister who gets knocked up and scorns her mother and family due to projection.

    A side of my says, hey I'm gonna be that courageous, confident and admirable person, but then there's that fear that I'll end up succumbing to the same stupidity that seems to plague alot of average to unhealthy Sixes.
    While I knew Hitler was eNFJ 6w5cp on steroids... I actually didn't know Kanye West was counterphobic...or likewise "the older sister who gets knocked up and scorns her mother and family due to projection." <--haha wtf? That's awesome.

    I feel like you have a lot of insight into counterphobia...along with maybe a couple of misconceptions. Do you identify with being counterphobic yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    Obviously, lots of different unhealthy types such as 7s, 8s and even 3s (in a more ambitious way) that can display this behavior too, but there's something about the 6 ones that are really unsettling to me. It's less composed, and more erratic and unjustified. An 8 with a child would have more composure, a 7 would probably embrace the child with optimism, but an unhealthy cp6 will straight up abuse the child out of anxiety and raise another kid with a f-cked up childhood. It's such a common sight in my environment and I can't help but be embarassed.

    Do you think there's a correlation?
    also, since this part is a newer edition, one of the major reasons I do not want children is that I'm pretty sure that I'd fuck them over impressively by accident... if I get angry, I am NOT composed

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    bingo! (my 6 wing has talked me out of doing all manner of crazy shit lol)
    PS: for the record, I think instinctual variants are more likely to play a role than core type. Sp doms are probably disproportionately less likely to commit crimes while Sx/So is probably the mostly likely to.
    an SP who has given up on everything in life can be pretty pathetic... I think you're underestimating here. I'm a repeat offender for drinking and driving, not anything more creative, but I should have been punished more harshly because I did that shit for YEARS before getting caught. Of course once I was caught I was completely desperate to get out of jail... that place fucked with my head... something about being locked in just flipped a switch in my brain and made me feel downright despondent.

    I guess I'm saying that an SP who's given up on themselves can be pretty selfish about their behavior in a pretty antisocial manner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    While I knew Hitler was eNFJ 6w5cp on steroids... I actually didn't know Kanye West was counterphobic...or likewise "the older sister who gets knocked up and scorns her mother and family due to projection." <--haha wtf? That's awesome.

    I feel like you have a lot of insight into counterphobia...along with maybe a couple of misconceptions. Do you identify with being counterphobic yourself?
    I'm phobic.

    Kanye's probably mainly an unhealthy phobic 6 with a few counterphobic tendencies. He's mainly passive aggressive

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    I can see a lot of cops being CP6 actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chana View Post
    I think your definition of a criminal is pretty narrow though.. It seems like you're only counting crimes you find morally offensive which isn't the reality.
    I think a man was recently locked up a week in jail for shitting his pants in a courtroom.
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