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    yeah my bfs mother is an esfj type 2w3 and her way of going all out for somebody and being all self sacrificey is way different than i imagine an enfp 2w3 would do it.

    i mean i can see that influence in myself...but i'm still fi...definitely not fe

    and @nicolita i know! when they give you two opposing words and you have to chose between them it can be very hard to know how to answer. i find that
    especially true for a type like 7w6 where the anxiousness almost feels equal to the confidence and there's many questions along that same theme.
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    Well, I only have 2w3 in my tritype, but I thought I'd say hi cause I'm an ENFP and so too.

    Between 6 and 2 and sp-last I tend to overextend myself a lot... I always am tired...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Well, I only have 2w3 in my tritype, but I thought I'd say hi cause I'm an ENFP and so too.

    Between 6 and 2 and sp-last I tend to overextend myself a lot... I always am tired...
    Hi! Gosh, there is something so reassuring about hearing from people who deal with the same kind of self-inflicted stuff as you. Hope you're getting the same kind of comfort here
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I remember laughing at something @Starry wrote about this, because it was true, but I don't remember where it was.

    Something about Fe types getting all manipulative & spiteful when not given the affection/attention they crave & Fi types just whining about it.

    I'll have to think a bit more about this, but I had a 2w3 ESFP friend also & she could look quite Fe-ish in ways but the distinction was still there...
    So do all 2s care about being anal and organizing everything, or is that just FJ 2 territory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    So do all 2s care about being anal and organizing everything, or is that just FJ 2 territory?
    i don't guess i can actually answer that since i'm a 7 with just two as my second but i don't think that would be true for any enfp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    So do all 2s care about being anal and organizing everything, or is that just FJ 2 territory?
    Although my 2 status is under question, I am NOT anal or organized. Like to a fault. I do like to organize social events though, but I do so with a very open go-with-the-flow attitude. I invite everyone under the sun, get some good music and food together, and let the magic happen. I'm generally unconcerned with the details, especially once it's all under way. I'm dancing and partying, not cleaning or fretting, but if anyone comes to me with a need during a party, I'll gladly do everything I can to help them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Although my 2 status is under question, I am NOT anal or organized. Like to a fault. I do like to organize social events though, but I do so with a very open go-with-the-flow attitude. I invite everyone under the sun, get some good music and food together, and let the magic happen. I'm generally unconcerned with the details, especially once it's all under way. I'm dancing and partying, not cleaning or fretting, but if anyone comes to me with a need during a party, I'll gladly do everything I can to help them out.
    yep same for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Although my 2 status is under question, I am NOT anal or organized. Like to a fault. I do like to organize social events though, but I do so with a very open go-with-the-flow attitude. I invite everyone under the sun, get some good music and food together, and let the magic happen. I'm generally unconcerned with the details, especially once it's all under way. I'm dancing and partying, not cleaning or fretting, but if anyone comes to me with a need during a party, I'll gladly do everything I can to help them out.
    I think the classic ENFP in all the descriptions is a 2w3 fix based on this. I could never relate to this type of behavior lol

    Stereotypical ENFP sounds like a 7w6 - 2w3 - 8w7 sx/so

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I remember laughing at something @Starry wrote about this, because it was true, but I don't remember where it was.

    Something about Fe types getting all manipulative & spiteful when not given the affection/attention they crave & Fi types just whining about it.

    I'll have to think a bit more about this, but I had a 2w3 ESFP friend also & she could look quite Fe-ish in ways but the distinction was still there...
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    The best description of this I've seen came from @Starry.

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    jynx!

    whoa... I was actually online and had just followed/'cleaned-out' my mentions...when right at that same moment these mentions came up...so then I thought I hadn't done it properly(?) haha. It took me a moment to realize these were new. Then when I read what you two wrote I was like..."OMG...OMG...OMG I don't remember this... But how can two people with way better memories than me remember me saying something...and recall it at the exact same time...? What's that herb I need to start taking called again...?"

    Starry's had a confusing morning. And yes, it took me this long to remember what my Fe/Fi comments were with regards to e2s haha.

    That was in that e8 thread. And @Zarathustra did you see in that marriage information you attached that e8 & e2 have the most marriages of all the e-types???!!! A true indication that co-dependency really is the glue that keeps relationships intact. <--I don't really know what just came over me when saying that. Yet I am now interested in knowing if @nicolita's INTJ husband is e8...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    whoa... I was actually online and had just followed/'cleaned-out' my mentions...when right at that same moment these mentions came up...so then I thought I hadn't done it properly(?) haha. It took me a moment to realize these were new. Then when I read what you two wrote I was like..."OMG...OMG...OMG I don't remember this... But how can two people with way better memories than me remember me saying something...and recall it at the exact same time...? What's that herb I need to start taking called again...?"

    Starry's had a confusing morning. And yes, it took me this long to remember what my Fe/Fi comments were with regards to e2s haha.

    That was in that e8 thread. And @Zarathustra did you see in that marriage information you attached that e8 & e2 have the most marriages of all the e-types???!!! A true indication that co-dependency really is the glue that keeps relationships intact. <--I don't really know what just came over me when saying that. Yet I am now interested in knowing if @nicolita's INTJ husband is e8...
    oh this sounds interesting. i don't know what thread you're talking about but i guess i'll try to find it.

    2's and 8's are co dependent? that's interesting.
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