Thanks for all the answers.
Yeah, it's hard to know how much that NF idealising factor comes into it.I really try to make situations perfect, picturesque, ideal, etc. I'm an NF, what can I say?
Gotcha.Well... no... I just meant that sometimes things are surprising and unsurprising at the same time. I don't really have much of a focus on whether I'm getting it right or not... like I said above, I'm much more concerned about the outcome, so I don't really think much in terms of success. I think what I was trying to convey was more along the lines of you can sort of see something coming, but you might be seeing a lot of things coming, and if you're not focused on a specific one, then it can still be jarring when it happens. And it's sort of like having a sick loved one pass away - even if you know it's coming there's still a shocking finality about it when it finally does happen. Even when you know it's coming, it's not REAL yet until it happens, and it can still be very startling when it becomes real, because that's when you have to face the consequences.
The fact that you get what I'm on about makes me think there's some truth in it.
Oh, well, maybe? I guess because I always anticipate things it's not really surprising that some of them happen. It's just surprising when they happen, or sometimes how. Maybe other people find it strange to observe my response when it's half "oh snap" and half "I could see that coming". I've really never thought about that before.
I don't know, it just seems like a push/pull effect of the Counter-Phobic and Phobic; the thrill/shock/rush of surprise, mixed with sobered knowledge and expectation. It's an interesting combination. Perhaps it's the equivalent of how 4s can be incredibly pompous and yet emphasize their inferiority within the same breath.
I agree it's a spectrum. Anyone that leans too far one way or the other is sure to be of the unhealthy variety. Perhaps the goal for 6s is to achieve a happy balance between the two.Very often, to the extent that I don't really believe in a phobic-CP split. I think it can be useful for individuals to identify somewhere on the spectrum if they lean very far either way, but I think most 6s will fall in the middle, with aspects of both.
Perhaps also Ni wants to know for the sake of knowing, but the 6s impulses want only to know how to avoid negative outcomes?In contrast, I am more focused on the exact turnout. Ni helps me to see whether the bad scenarios that my 6 conjures up are actually likely to happen or not. And it also helps me figure out whether I can do something about it (what effect my actions will have on these possibilities), and if I can, how to strategically go about making things come out as close to how I want them to. I hope skylights will tell me if I’m misinterpreting how we differ with our Ni/Ne.
It's interesting that it makes you second guess your reading of situations. You make it sound more like tertiary Ti.On the other hand, when my Ni makes a prediction, my 6 makes me try to poke holes in it to see if it holds up. I’ve wasted so much time not trusting my Ni predictions that were right because my 6 makes me hate the idea of blindly trusting something without seeing if it can stand up to scrutiny, even my own insights.
Well if you're inclined to over-think, why not use that to your advantage.Yeah, it’s great when this can happen . It’s better than when I go through scenarios and I realize something really bad does have a good chance of happening. Plus, I feel like turning the bad possibilities into “well, it wouldn’t be that bad anyway” is a way of preparing for them since if they do happen, I’m not paralyzed with feeling like oh-no, this is horrible.
It could be a Fe factor too. 6s are inclined to care about responsibilities (or lack thereof) and the good of society; combine that with Fe and it's sure to heighten these impulses.I think it’s both part of being a 6 and an Ni-user since I’ve seen other Ni-doms who aren’t 6s be this way too. Or maybe simply being a Pi-dom does this since Si can help you predict the future too, although in a different way than Ni.