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    Default NT 9w1s?

    How do they differ from NTs with different Enneagrams?

    I'm more interested in the nuances between the different INTPs, but if anyone has insight into the other sorts of NTs, then please share!

    As for my observations, I'll say this - As much as I relate to the description given for INTPs, it's pretty amusing to see how across the board it can be. I know a lot of INTPs (especially the younger males) like to rock the boat, but it was never really something I was interested in, unless it had a direct purpose.

    I think this could serve as prominent distinction between 9w1s and 5s, once elaborated upon. Then again, I'm speaking for myself, so correct me if I'm wrong. Do you guys have any other examples?

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    Compared to a 9w8 like me, although both being the peacekeepers that we are, I'd say the main difference is that the 9w1 would be a bit more reclusive socially, focusing more on their own integrity. Whereas a 9w8 focuses more on experiences, not all that concerned about that own integrity.

    One example might be my self-deprecating humor. Something you probably won't find in 9w1's as abundantly.
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    I believe I'm an INTP 9w1. The enneagram description that sounds most like me by far is 5, but compared with actual fives, I'm not nearly as interested in acquiring knowledge. I'm probably also more soft and gentle compared with INTP 5's, as well as unobservant and unfocused, and I lack the intellectual arrogance that 5's sometimes have. I like people more than 5's seem to, though I avoid them just as much. I'm naturally inclined to take the path of least resistance, so I don't enjoy arguments like 5's often do. I go with the flow, which means that I usually don't form strong opinions on matters and can easily go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    One example might be my self-deprecating humor. Something you probably won't find in 9w1's as abundantly.
    Interesting! Now that you say that, I always did have a problem with it. I can depreciate myself without the company of others, just fine. They have enough collateral as it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Silveresque View Post
    I believe I'm an INTP 9w1. The enneagram description that sounds most like me by far is 5, but compared with actual fives, I'm not nearly as interested in acquiring knowledge. I'm probably also more soft and gentle compared with INTP 5's, as well as unobservant and unfocused, and I lack the intellectual arrogance that 5's sometimes have. I like people more than 5's seem to, though I avoid them just as much. I'm naturally inclined to take the path of least resistance, so I don't enjoy arguments like 5's often do. I go with the flow, which means that I usually don't form strong opinions on matters and can easily go either way.
    The extent to which I can relate to so many people here always concerns me. This is just another example.

    I wonder if, speaking in cognitive functions, it could be attributed to a a more pronounced Fe? Or maybe not, since it's not as if there's a more active desire to seek people out. Out of curiosity, how do you act when you communicate with people, face to face?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ism View Post
    The extent to which I can relate to so many people here always concerns me. This is just another example.

    I wonder if, speaking in cognitive functions, it could be attributed to a a more pronounced Fe? Or maybe not, since it's not as if there's a more active desire to seek people out. Out of curiosity, how do you act when you communicate with people, face to face?
    Since I'm not very good at making conversation, nor is it something that particularly interests me, I find that for most part I just nod and smile and try to act interested. I rarely have much of anything to say, as my mind doesn't naturally go toward conversation topics. I usually keep disagreements to myself, since it's not worth getting into an argument over.

    My Fe does work well for certain things, like going along with people and not offending anyone. The one thing that stands out to me most from a description of Fe however is this:

    (Source: Cognitive Processes - Fe)
    Often with this process, we feel pulled to be responsible and take care of others' feelings, sometimes to the point of not separating our feelings from theirs.
    This part fits me so well that I've actually been told I'm TOO nice and that I need to be careful so that people don't take advantage of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silveresque View Post
    This part fits me so well that I've actually been told I'm TOO nice and that I need to be careful so that people don't take advantage of that.
    Oh, interesting. I guess anything Fe related takes on a more passive role. Yeah, I figure us 9w1s have to learn how to reign that in. I guess that could make us more susceptible to manipulation, but it's generally a smart idea to avoid the kind of people that would try. =/

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    I always thought only ENTP 9s existed. I do wonder how there are INTJ 8s though, that doesn't seem to make much sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by minutegovt View Post
    I always thought only ENTP 9s existed. I do wonder how there are INTJ 8s though, that doesn't seem to make much sense
    Apparently, 9w1 is a fairly common enneagram for INTPs. 9w8 less so, but it's there. I'm just basing this on Blackcat's chart on the correlation between MBTI and Enneagram.

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    Although it's a bit of a paradox, I think 9 INTP's are more socially oriented than the common 5's. The paradox is that we tend to be more passive though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Although it's a bit of a paradox, I think 9 INTP's are more socially oriented than the common 5's. The paradox is that we tend to be more passive though.
    It is pretty funny, but at least it kind of makes sense? I actively/subconsciously try to not step on anyone's toes, so it's really hard to get on anyone's bad side. :P

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