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    Senior Member Richardsen's Avatar
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    Default People who look like a 4 but they aren't

    I saw too much misidentification with this type. Specially with famous people who are artist/musicians/ or depresive...

    - Amy Winehouse 6w7 Sx/So
    -Angelina Jolie 6w7 Sx/Sp
    - Kurt Cobain 5w4 Sx/Sp
    -John Lennon 5w4 Sx/So
    -Lou Reed 6w5 Sx/Sp
    -Thom Yorke 5w4 Sp/Sx
    -Prince 3w4 Sx/Sp ( i dont see him as a 4, maybe he is but with an extremely heavy 3 wing)
    -Jack Kerouac 6w7 Sx/Sp (maybe 6w5)
    -Courtney Love 8w7 Sx first
    -Adolf Hitler 6w5 Sx/So
    - Eminem 6w5 So/Sx
    -Brandon Boyd 3w4 So/Sx
    - Andy Warhol 3w4 So first
    -Janis Joplin 7w8 Sx/Sp
    -Jim Morrison 7w8 Sx/Sp
    - Denis Rodman 6w7 Sx/So

    Well and all of the people who think that are 4s cuz they find themselves depresed, creative and emotional. Me included...

    Continue the list people



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    Hitler and Eminem? Good grief...

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    I'll add Lady Gaga. I think she's 6w7 Sx/So.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardsen View Post
    -Janis Joplin 7w8 Sx/Sp
    9w8 Sx/So.

    Kerouac is 6w5 Sx/So.

    Prince is a true 4.

    But anyway, good list.

    Also i'd say:

    Serge Gainsbourg: 7w6 Sx/Sp
    Salvador Dali: 7w6 Sx/Sp
    David Bowie: 3w4 Sx/So
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    Hitler and Eminem? Good grief...
    Hitler lived like a starving artist and was took as an eccentric during his youth, also, he was a pathetic lover, cryed, wrote peotry...

    I'll add Lady Gaga. I think she's 6w7 Sx/So.

    Yeah. ^^
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    - Hazel O'Connor: 6w7 Sx/So
    - Amy Lee: 6w7 Sp/Sx
    - Gene Wilder: 2w3 So/Sx
    - Dido: 9w1 Sp/Sx
    - Pink: 8w7 Sx/So
    - most INFPs
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    I would have never typed these people 4 or thought they look like 4s, maybe with the exception of Warhol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - most INFPs
    There are quite a few INFPs who are legitimately 4, even if quite a few others are 5, 6 or 9. I don't buy the Riso-Hudson correlation of Fi with enneagram 6, or any correlation of one Jungian type to one enneagram type.
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    There are quite a few INFPs who are legitimately 4, even if quite a few others are 5, 6 or 9. I don't buy the Riso-Hudson correlation of Fi with enneagram 6, or any correlation of one Jungian type to one enneagram type.
    it's not rare, but neither is it as common as people think it is. the core motivation of 4 is usually very poorly described and worded in a way that virtually any FP would relate to.
    I agree though that it's kinda foolish to correlate one MBTI type with only one enneagram type or vice versa. with INFJs for instance, there are lots of 6s, lots of 9s, lots of 5s and lots of 4s.
    ENFP: We put the Fi in Fire
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    Sunburst!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    9w8 Sx/So.
    Why?
    Really, dont see it.

    I add

    Tom Waits 6w5 Sx/Sp
    Patti Smith 5w4 Sx/So (maybe she looks more like an 8)
    Beethoven 8w9 So last


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    me. 6w7 sx/so.

    thought i was a 4w3 or 3w4 for a good long while.

    am an artist.

    i think magic poriferan hit it on the head when saying both 4 and 6 (and 8) are emotionally turbulent. but 6 is more externally seeking and 4 is more internally seeking, which i think is a very telling distinction in many people. for me it was the dual realization that: a) i do not tend to purposefully amplify emotions and b) i do not have identity issues along with the confirmation that i was very fueled by anxiety that told me 6 instead of 4.

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