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    Default Intellectual 4w3s?

    Can anyone think of any intellectuals or thinkers who could be considered 4w3? I think there's an unfortunate stereotype that 4w3s are drama queens/airheads and that 4w5s are the genuine thinkers (emphasis on genuine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    Can anyone think of any intellectuals or thinkers who could be considered 4w3? I think there's an unfortunate stereotype that 4w3s are drama queens/airheads and that 4w5s are the genuine thinkers (emphasis on genuine).
    @Domino is a great, amazing example of 4w3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    Can anyone think of any intellectuals or thinkers who could be considered 4w3? I think there's an unfortunate stereotype that 4w3s are drama queens/airheads and that 4w5s are the genuine thinkers (emphasis on genuine).
    @Domino is a great, amazing example of 4w3.

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    I used "blastocyte" in a sentence this weekend. Does that count?
    eNFJ 4w3 sx/so 468 tritype
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    My INFP friend is a 4w3 sx/so, and she's one of the only people that will talk about random metaphysical bullshit with me until I'm tired of it. Not famous, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    I used "blastocyte" in a sentence this weekend. Does that count?
    Every time you post, it's like angels exploding from my brain with the amazingness of your thoughts.

    I think 4w3's offer the best of both worlds: beauty and brains.

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    I heard Albert Camus was one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    I heard Albert Camus was one.
    Yes he was

    I had a friend who was a 4w3, ( Sp/So/So/Sp) and is much more intelectual than me... Well maybe the right word would be cerebral. I can remember when we where kids and he talked all the time about intelectual subjects, to me he was like a "wise kid", the most interesting kid i've known. He was 4w3 for sure, and very obvious... Now he is writing manga/anime-like novels and hangin out with pussies. Still apreciate him.


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    I thought 4w3s & 3w4s often personified "intellectual snob" . 4s are often described as having an intellectual bent, regardless of wing. I suppose we could discuss WHY 4s are often drawn to such things, but for the sake brevity, let's just accept it as typical of the type.

    I can't see why a 3 wouldn't be drawn to interests which signify intelligence, "high brow" taste, being cultured & classy, etc.

    People who think 4w3s are airheads must have a serious misunderstanding of 4w3s. I can't find that link to the long list of enneagram type (+ wing & instinctual stackings) videos, but the 4w3s seemed like exceptionally creative & smart people, not drama queen airheads.


    EDIT: Here it is (right on the first page )
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    Intellectual, meaning highly developed intellect...
    and intellect, meaning

    -the power of knowing as distinguished from the power to feel and to will

    -the capacity for rational or intelligent thought especially when highly developed
    and intelligence, which includes
    -the abilities for abstract thought
    -understanding
    -communication
    -reasoning
    -learning
    -planning
    -problem solving.

    I would say that both 3w4 and 4w3 engulfs many of these charactoristics, along with all of the other enneagram types.

    No, enneagram does not influence the capacity for intellect.. just like mbti type doesn't directly affect IQ.

    Genius and idiocy will be found in each of them (yes, even 5's) and I suppose that real intellect (imho) is a byproduct of understaing the different perspectives and the capacity of creation in each.
    Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun - Watts

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