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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i don't know if i can help but i'm a 7w6...are you asking for you?
    Maybe? Just Something tangible for comparison purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
    Maybe? Just Something tangible for comparison purposes.
    have you ever read about the core motivations? or biggest fears and each types coping mechanisms? i would guess that you identify most with either the 7 or the 6. i definitely feel 6 ish but know that my main drive and motivation is that of a 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    have you ever read about the core motivations? or biggest fears and each types coping mechanisms? i would guess that you identify most with either the 7 or the 6. i definitely feel 6 ish but know that my main drive and motivation is that of a 7.
    Yeah, I have, I find it's too subjective/blurry to pinpoint accurately, hence was looking for more insight.
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    Maybe we should have a whole thread dedicated to awesome 6s in fiction (and RL)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Maybe we should have a whole thread dedicated to awesome 6s in fiction (and RL)?
    Yessss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Yessss!

    I'll start: Link
    What, here? Shouldn't we start a new one?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    What, here? Shouldn't we start a new one?...
    Yeah, I meant start it elsewhere. I was just naming someone to start off with for the thread.
    MBTI: INFP
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    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    The chain is as follows: jixmixfix initially stated that it's probably 6's who cling to (wrong) groups for security, Hazashin clarified that it is social 6s who do so, and I stated that I don't exhibit that behavior as a social 6. I also referred to my previous post to explain how exactly doubt does manifest in me.

    Hazashin didn't offer a rebuttal for me; he offered a rebuttal for jixmixfix. Additionally, I'm saying that what Hazashin stated does not apply to me.
    I don't think what @jixmixfix said is accurate at all.

    Maybe it's helpful to go back to what the enneagram is. A person's core fixation (enneagram type) represents a couple of things: 1) a distinct way of distorting reality and 2) a "ruling passion" that reflects a particular motivational bias. For the E6, it's about fear and anxiety - that is the distorting motivation. So, what does a 6 do in response? They take actions to reduce the fear or anxiety: A) retreat or yield (phobic) or B) confront and challenge (counter-phobic). Other related and associated responses include avoiding situations which would give rise to those feelings, thinking of what can go wrong and taking precautions to prevent them from happening, building financial and relational stability into their lives, etc. This has little to nothing to do with clinging to “wrong groups.”

    Let's take a concrete example of a character many would be familiar with. William Wallace in the movie Braveheart is an example of an E6. Would William Wallace cling to a "wrong group"? He would no more do so than a 9 (who doesn't want to rock the boat) or a 3 (who wants to be perceived well by others) or a 4 (who is idealistic to a cause).

    I’ll take myself as an example. I have ideas – often strong ones – that I believe are correct. However, the challenge at times is when it comes down to acting. I can be afraid to act entirely on my own perceptions because I may be wrong. What I consciously or unconsciously do is to surround myself with others that I can bounce things off of. I’m not looking just for yes people people who will agree with me. If anything that makes me less confident because of the lack of critical thinking that’s applied. I’m looking for people who have an opinion or will challenge my thinking. It doesn’t mean I’m going to do what they say. I do however use this process to help validate my perceptions and thinking. Sometimes of course, I just decide and don’t listen much to anyone (maybe that’s the INTJishness). Sometimes that works out brilliantly and other times it’s a disaster. Getting the right balance between these two things is what’s tricky because you need to have confidence in your own perceptions and thought process but not so much that you are blind and arrogant. The other thing is that while involving others in decisions and gaining consensus can be important to get things implemented, you don't want to be paralyzed from acting for fear of losing your support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    a 4 (who is idealistic to a cause)
    That's a 1, I believe. 4's want to have their own identity that's different and separate from others.
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    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

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