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    Not a coffee addict, but I drink it every morning. Too much of it makes me palpitate and agitated.

    Speaking of addiction, I have other addiction about my being an sp 9. I can't seem to control my urge to play some games at facebook. It's really counter-productive. I plan to have my facebook be a restricted site.

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    I love my caffeine. I drink a lot of it because I have a lot going on. It's definitely an addiction, and it's fine with me.
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    I love coffee, I wouldn't say I have a habit since I don't drink it everyday but I definitely feel more alert and energetic with a cup in the morning and maybe another late afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Is there a relationship between being a type 9 and having a caffeine habit? Are these correlated more closely than with the other 8 types? Are there any type 9s out there who don't require some kind of stimulant (if not caffeine) to keep them going all day?

    For me, I have had a caffine addition temporarily in the past. I was merging with a 5w4 who loved coffee. I would drink it a lot and even when I wasn't tired. While I was integrating I would try new types of coffee with different flavors and potency. Eventually I noticed that I had this twitch in my left eye. I stopped drinking coffee cold turkey and the twitch stayed with me for about a month. Then I started to drink darjeeling tea and the twitch went away in about two days time. I thought that was really cool actually but all of this is irrelevant to the point I want to make.

    The point I was going to make is that most people with the type 9 personality don't have a really well developed sense of self which would include any real awareness of the effects of coffee on their system. So this habit is easily set in motion and tends to stay in motion until that awareness is developed and the effects realized. At the same time, some nines may use stimulants as their "creature comfort" and simply will not be separated from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterion View Post
    I thought most people were caffeine addicts? 9s have an affinity for sleep right? Why would they seek out something that makes them more awake? I guess they might feel the benefits more than some types.
    9s don't have a real affinity for sleep. It's more about emotional indolence. In average to unhealthy levels we tend to stop paying attention to ourselves and others so that we can maintain a balanced emotional state. The highs are lowered and the lows are raised so to speak.
    Seeking out caffeine can be useful for avoiding tiredness. When I'm tired that makes me feel uncomfortable and even irritable so having caffeine turns the discomfort in to white noise and I can't tell that I'm tired anymore. Although once I lay down at night...eyes shut, lights out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Observer View Post
    For me, I have had a caffine addition temporarily in the past. I was merging with a 5w4 who loved coffee. I would drink it a lot and even when I wasn't tired. While I was integrating I would try new types of coffee with different flavors and potency. Eventually I noticed that I had this twitch in my left eye. I stopped drinking coffee cold turkey and the twitch stayed with me for about a month. Then I started to drink darjeeling tea and the twitch went away in about two days time. I thought that was really cool actually but all of this is irrelevant to the point I want to make.

    The point I was going to make is that most people with the type 9 personality don't have a really well developed sense of self which would include any real awareness of the effects of coffee on their system. So this habit is easily set in motion and tends to stay in motion until that awareness is developed and the effects realized. At the same time, some nines may use stimulants as their "creature comfort" and simply will not be separated from them.
    9s have an awareness of the self, it's just not developed. It doesn't take that much awareness to admit that "I need caffeine in order to keep me awake all day."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Is there a relationship between being a type 9 and having a caffeine habit? Are these correlated more closely than with the other 8 types? Are there any type 9s out there who don't require some kind of stimulant (if not caffeine) to keep them going all day?
    I can't figure out if I am more Eight or Nine. I don't think I am nice enough to be a Nine, but I don't usually have the steady energy of an Eight. Anyway, I think I usually see high energy people being big coffee attics. I think they have the desire to keep pushing their self, so the coffee helps, where Nines don't always have the desire, unless it's survival mode or maybe when they are in their healthier integrated days being closer to Three. I am a huge coffee junkie though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbyagain View Post
    I can't figure out if I am more Eight or Nine. I don't think I am nice enough to be a Nine, but I don't usually have the steady energy of an Eight. Anyway, I think I usually see high energy people being big coffee attics. I think they have the desire to keep pushing their self, so the coffee helps, where Nines don't always have the desire, unless it's survival mode or maybe when they are in their healthier integrated days being closer to Three. I am a huge coffee junkie though...
    I'm not asking if 9s need coffee to go into survival mode. I'm asking if they need it to give them the energy just to make it through their day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I'm not asking if 9s need coffee to go into survival mode. I'm asking if they need it to give them the energy just to make it through their day.
    That was the implication. Same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Is there a relationship between being a type 9 and having a caffeine habit? Are these correlated more closely than with the other 8 types? Are there any type 9s out there who don't require some kind of stimulant (if not caffeine) to keep them going all day?
    I have enough energy to kill a horse with my eyes sometimes, but I still drink coffee every day since I was about 11. I drink even more coffee when I'm doing something that requires mental focusing, like writing my book for instance. If I'm doing active body stuff, I just energize myself and don't need as much coffee.

    Hm. Maybe this is why my enneagram-literate friends are insisting I have a 9 wing.
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