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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    It depends why you hate it. I hate it because I feel the immense pressure of it to be burdensome. It cripples my ability to be myself and say what I really think, because I'm so worried people will judge me. I've discovered 4w5 sps for example, dislike conformity but don't care as much what people think and are more inclined to be all, "this is me, get used to it".
    If that's true, I probably am a social 4, then. I care way too much about what people think of me (or really more like what kind of impression I think I made). Whenever I make even the tiniest mistake (which can even be just imagined awkwardness), I can't help feeling like an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    If that's true, I probably am a social 4, then. I care way too much about what people think of me (or really more like what kind of impression I think I made). Whenever I make even the tiniest mistake (which can even be just imagined awkwardness), I can't help feeling like an idiot.
    In these descriptions, which do you relate to the most? http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...sition=80:80//

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    In these descriptions, which do you relate to the most? http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...sition=80:80//
    In the general stacks page, the only one that fits me is Sp/Sx. In the 4 stacks page, So/Sp fits best, followed closely by Sp/Sx, and then Sp/So.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    In the general stacks page, the only one that fits me is Sp/Sx. In the 4 stacks page, So/Sp fits best, followed closely by Sp/Sx, and then Sp/So.
    I wonder if that's common for fours, that sort of disparity. (4w5s especially) I can see fours relating primarily with the sp/sx and sx/sp general stacks- I know that's how it is for me. But then for the 4 stacks for me, it's pretty much a tie between so/sx and sp/sx, with so/sp third. And whenever I've taken that instinct test, I get very strong sx followed by sp with so barely making a showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    I wonder if that's common for fours, that sort of disparity. (4w5s especially) I can see fours relating primarily with the sp/sx and sx/sp general stacks- I know that's how it is for me. But then for the 4 stacks for me, it's pretty much a tie between so/sx and sp/sx, with so/sp third. And whenever I've taken that instinct test, I get very strong sx followed by sp with so barely making a showing.
    Yeah, 4's tend to be very passionate and emotional, and I think that gives them a natural inclination toward the Sx instinct. Compared with all types, even Sx-last fours may relate more to Sx descriptions than to their actual variant. But when you look at the variant descriptions specifically for 4, there's less bias because those descriptions will take into account those qualities that would normally come out Sx when they're really just e4 qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    But when you look at the variant descriptions specifically for 4, there's less bias because those descriptions will take into account those qualities that would normally come out Sx when they're really just e4 qualities.
    This is very true and why the specific stacking descriptions for 4s are a lot more accurate for typing. In the general descriptions, I can see myself in the sx/sp a lot, but not so much in the 4 specific descriptions. The sx-dom 4s are almost an exaggeration of classic 4 traits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    If that's true, I probably am a social 4, then. I care way too much about what people think of me (or really more like what kind of impression I think I made). Whenever I make even the tiniest mistake (which can even be just imagined awkwardness), I can't help feeling like an idiot.
    This sounds very much like so. I can experience embarrassment on a level similar to that of physical pain and can relieve it years afterwards with the same sting. It doesn't even have to be my own; just watching someone else make a fool of themselves, knowingly or not, is sheer agony for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    I wonder if that's common for fours, that sort of disparity. (4w5s especially) I can see fours relating primarily with the sp/sx and sx/sp general stacks- I know that's how it is for me. But then for the 4 stacks for me, it's pretty much a tie between so/sx and sp/sx, with so/sp third. And whenever I've taken that instinct test, I get very strong sx followed by sp with so barely making a showing.
    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    Yeah, 4's tend to be very passionate and emotional, and I think that gives them a natural inclination toward the Sx instinct. Compared with all types, even Sx-last fours may relate more to Sx descriptions than to their actual variant. But when you look at the variant descriptions specifically for 4, there's less bias because those descriptions will take into account those qualities that would normally come out Sx when they're really just e4 qualities.
    Yeah, the general descriptions are terrible as they are biased toward certain enneatypes (ugh, I can't get over how wrong the so/sp one is ). In those, I do relate more to the sp/sx and sx/sp descriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    This sounds very much like so. I can experience embarrassment on a level similar to that of physical pain and can relieve it years afterwards with the same sting. It doesn't even have to be my own; just watching someone else make a fool of themselves, knowingly or not, is sheer agony for me.
    Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I'm the exact same way. It never really goes away. All I have to do is think about something stupid I did in the past to feel like a complete idiot all over again. And I could never laugh at someone else for making a fool of himself because I know how painful it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    This sounds very much like so. I can experience embarrassment on a level similar to that of physical pain and can relieve it years afterwards with the same sting. It doesn't even have to be my own; just watching someone else make a fool of themselves, knowingly or not, is sheer agony for me.
    That all sounds just like me, especially the part with the bold!

    Does this mean I should consider being at least So-second as a possibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I'm the exact same way. It never really goes away. All I have to do is think about something stupid I did in the past to feel like a complete idiot all over again. And I could never laugh at someone else for making a fool of himself because I know how painful it is.
    Aaagreed. >_>
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